Warfare & Tactics

Prime example which includes 2 of you Qcats.

http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11987425

This is my alt that I use for the blob fights and trying to train Caldari noobers when I have the chance.. ( assume you guys knew being I don't make it a secret in Militia chat and I'm selling it anyway)

The other day you guys were in a plex with a DD, Comet and I saw a Jag & Hookbill flying around on scan that I assumed was Gal. Was also a Lach but he wasn't a concern in a med.. There were a few Gals next door in nemm, but I figure what the hell, I'll have a good in a med plex in a cruiser hull where I have NPC aggro vs a few faction frigs..

Of course faction frigs turn into Cynabal + Vexor.. Jag never showed up so maybe he wasn't with you guys. 2 or 3 other ships entered the plex b4 I died, but weren't on the KM for a proper ganking. Oh btw of course I got jammed with ECM drones while Val was in structure..

had 4 or 5 frigs shown up I'd probably of still died but likely taken a few out and had GF.. However Cynabal shows up pretty much faster than anyone as well as the Vexor.

I'm not complaining about the loss, after all I choose to fight you guys, but it's just typical response that I always see out of you guys.. You are never interested in risking losses of your own ships to get a GF, but rather only interesting in fighting if you have enough gank on hand. Val of course ran on the 1st go around and Cromwell burned way the hell away until you guys could line up proper gank with Cynabal & Vexor support for a Caracal.

Of course I knew Val was only willing to engage if he had proper gank gang lined up, but I was bored and fought, which tends to be reason I lose most ships that I lose.. Boredom..

Meh - double post fail...

I entered the plex and chased you way off and val ran off. In fact that was the smack in local saying "oh but you chased Val off in a anti frig Caracal" which obviously justify s the brining cynabal + Vexor and 2 or 3 others that didn't make it on the KM.. I mean hell I brought a Caracal..

It wasn't like you guys yelled Halp in local instantly causing 15 Gals to run this way.. I chased you guys off and sat there waiting for a few mins for you to come back. You brought what you wanted to bring in order to gank, not to give a GF. I was for a hopeful for a GF, but you brought gank.. So it's of course my fault for wanting GF from a bunch of faction frigs that turned into Cynabal & Vexor.

I mean it's not like I was sitting there with a timer of 20 mins or so that you could show up in what ever to give a GF.

Anyway I was responding to yourcorpmate whom said this:

Well so hes' not in your corp now.. Keep in mind I've been out of game for about 4 months and he was in your corp then. Sorry I haven't kept up with who's who in Militia corps, but I do remember him being in Qcats prior to me taking a EVE vacation.

lol 1st off you had no Idea I was packing a neut & web other wise Val would have never came in for the point.. Something that was even comented on in local.

I did expect your "back up" as there were 5 WT's in local and several in nemm. I just hoped that being I sat there waiting for you guys to come back, that you might be inclined to put up a reasonable fight for what I brought and ship accordingly. You were watching the timer just same as I was and I wasn't going anywhere..

This is the point I was making, is that you guys claim to want more GF's but you are only interested in those GF's if you can gank with no risk. Ship down and bring a reasonable response to the targets and you will likely get more GF's..

We are already out numbered, so how do you expect to get more GF, if we are also out ship classed because you guys won't fly anything but shineys being you have very little risk of loses with your numbers advantage?

Think about it, it was a med plex where I was going to be fighting out numbered with NPC aggro and you are so scared of a caracal that you need to bring a Cynabal and a t1 cruiser that could easily kill a caracal solo? Did you expect me to bring a Tristan or a Kestral, to fight out numbered with NPC aggro?

Anyway, I'm just saying this because you guys claim you want more fights out of Caldari, so I'm showing you why you don't get them. This isn't about a pissing match, I'm just showing you the reality of what you guys bring to a GF.

This isn't Sov war in null sec where the fights mean anything other than a good time.. Perhaps think about that if you want Gf's as you claim.

You are here merely complaining that you cannot get enough ganks because most people are wise enough to avoid your blob. Am I right?

If you havent played in a while, I think things might have changed a bit. We get a lot of T1 and small ship fights, or least since I have been back in the last month or so. Since we are in Nenn, and there are lots of squids in Enaluri, we tend to see each other a lot. Here is one recent day I remember. We fought at a medium plex. It was closed by one side or the other. Both sides reshipped. We fought at a small plex, it was closed by one side of the other. People in small ships. Very little faction bling. Pretty even numbers and ship-types in the plex fights. Both sides jumped into each other at one time or the other. Pretty even losses back and forth. This is what makes FW fun, IMHO. (I guess the guys at top on Gal side are Pies? They werent in our multiple plex fights that I recall). Not all fights are fair. Never will be. But we dont go out of our way to outship people either. Anyway - GF guys. These are the type I enjoy.

http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11947644

And the milita killboards are dragging. I wonder if its from all the people in this thread. ;)

Last night, and I will admit this is not the best example, but it is relavant, so here goes:

Qcats came around looking for a fight. So I traded chat in Enaluri local with them... they asked how many peeps we had active. Well, I had already asked for x's in Intel channels and so that left me and josh active in the whole militia. TWO PVP'ers were active as far as we could tell IN THE ENTIRE MILITIA. at midnightish on a Wed evening. So... there's the issue boys. We're not going to fight 30 man BS gangs (not that there was one last night, just saying) as hopelessly outnumbered as we are RIGHT now.

And this doesn't even count what I call the "Gallente Screw". Say you go to battle 3 Qcats/SPDR, whoever really. Well, guess what, they have guys in neighboring systems and the systems neighboring those and they are talking and fighting together. So you go to fight 3 cats and end up in a hairball of 12+ potentially. It's how it should be, dont get me wrong, that's great... but it's not inspiring fights out of the fewish PvP'ers left in Calmil.

Will things get better? Absolutely. Over night? No way. We are building again and the beast will rise once more. We are working on our end to assure more activity with militia men who want to fight, and keeping communications open with them. We have not been taking fleets out t get slaughtered in the current environment.

One of the Cats asked what they could do to help get the fights healthy again. I honestly couldn't think of anything that moment last night but here:

Guys, go hunt missioners while your PvP'ers come back around. It will disparage the missioners and give the PvP'ers time to train up (the newer ones) without getting omfg blobbed and completely turned off.

Secondly, try to bring fairly even fights. I'm not asking for a fix, or special treatment but I'm not kidding, I think we have maybe 20 PvP'ers left across our entire militia. Love them because they are still trying and dying and fighting when no one else will.

So those are my two iskies. I am looking forward to a speedy recovery.

PS, please stop talking about how we *always* blob you... that was once upon a time and certainly not consistent with current reality.

Moral of story stop asking for Good Fights you won’t get any from the Caldari Militia has we are effectively on life support. Not that I ever believed the Gals actually care about good fights. I’m not asking for any special favors since, if I was in their position I would do much worse to the opposing side. Caldari Militia will eventually rebuild itself since the mechanics in game will not let Caldari Militia fail cascade out of existence. I am optimistic that in a few months the Caldari will regain some of its fighting strength. I want the new Caldari Militia to be free of the negative old school players like Damar and company. I don’t plan on leaving or switch sides like some of the cowards on this thread. I do plan on helping new players and corps get acclimated to Caldari FW. If any new players/corps are reading this thread feel free to message me. This will be the last post on the train wreck of a thread.

Poor damar, i dont think he will ever regain a decent mental state after losing his 15-4 player downtime advantage with the plexes on tap.

Not to say that he isnt a good pvp'er. But he did spend the best part of a year pushing the after dt plexes with a 10-15 fleet that would converge on the 2-5 galmil pilots dedicated enough to be on trying to counter him.

As is so common in many other areas of life, we never remember the ganks we dished out, only the ones we recieve. This would seem to apply to damar especially lol.