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Thing is many can't use the new map on a daily basis as it is just bug ridden and player feedback seems to be just getting ignored, while we now have a dev coming in playing forum monitor.

Ok again;
For scanning, the auto scroll needs to be fixed - I scroll my mouse wheel 1 click I want the map to do the same, not keep scrolling till it reaches maximum or minimum probe size.

The clutter of mess in system view makes it really difficult to scan unless you turn everything off. I nearly lost a bil+ Stratios the other day because I didn't see someone else's combat probes go up while I was scanning a WH. (try scanning a WH with probes and celestial's turned on, using a 24" monitor, it is the thing nightmares are made of).

Circle needs to go, it is not accurate and adds time to every scan carried out. It is also a pain when trying to select a system from universe view, if you don't have the system your selecting blown up so big you can't see most of the map. Map reading, is sort of redundant if you have to individually scroll and zoom to see each system on the map.

Universe view, System indicators are not clear. On the old map I could tell at a glance where the hot spots were, where cyno activity was, how many in system, what my route was and was able to see the beginning and end of extended routes. Now, you have to zoom rotate zoom scroll zoom rotate, just to see a route (and isn't it fun to do when auto scroll kicks in).


Overall map size. It is like it doesn't scale with what size monitor or graphics settings you use ( I have 3 different sized monitors and in each, I get more or less information from the same view depending on which one I am using). It is often unusable for a lot of things because by the time you zoom it far enough so information is readable - Half the map is gone off your screen.
With the old map this was not such an issue as all you did was drag it to the desired position, this new one is a pain because often when your rotating and zooming in and out you can completely lose what it was you were looking at or for.

I no longer use the Beta map but do start it once in a while to see if it has been made usable.

As I suggested a few pages back - Make the old map windowed, overlay the new universe view, make selectable information (active cynos, kills in system, players in system, etc) nice and clear, like it is in the old map. Leave scanning as a separate page, I would much rather switch to system view with 1 click than have all the clutter and lag issues attributed to zoom to system view.

Want to add something new -Include a search function with results based on available information, such as +100 in system highlights just those systems where there is more than 100 players present. Sov search by alliance - Highlights only systems held by that alliance - Kills / Players in system, do it in increments and in selectable ranges, so, 0 to 10, less than 50, +50 less than 100 .

Talk to the guy who looks after Dotlan - Something like that in game with information updated every 5 or 10 minutes would be awesome. If your going to add something new to the game, make it something that doesn't just mirror something else but with pretty colors. Functionality is the most important thing - Pretty, is just pretty.
Dotlan + old map, gives me all the information I need, quickly, clearly and without fuss.

I have tested the new map for two weeks to get a real feel for it and unfortunatly in it's current form it is not very good. Some feedback:

1. Cursor is way too unprecise. Very very hard to grab things with it.

2. The inability to fullscreen while still seeing overview, scanning window and chats. Having to fit the map window between those other windows gives me quite a small area to work with.

3. Icons showing items in space, such as bookmarks and anomalies, obscures what is behind or below them. IE the dot indicating where my scanning target is.

4. Dot indicating scanning target can dissapear in certain camera angles.

Reading post above mine I also agree with:

5. "Inertia" makes moving my focus harder.

Final points may be me not knowing how to use the map correctly:

6. No search function inside the map. If I want to search for a starsystem I have to open "People and Places" separatly

7. Adding statistics to map such as "Avarage people in space" does not seem to give me any information. All I could see was some connections changing colour from red to white. I miss the orange "blob".

we dont need a new map,we dont need new icons!thats all for now.

Just been playing with the map and tbh it's not at all intuitive. I went to and from the old map and found the old map far easier to use.

I may have missed a setting, but I use the old map in a flat state. I only see two viewing settings on the new one and neither of them work the same way. I may be missing something, but so far not at all impressed.

Why make a new map system and not make it as simple as the old? There are some really odd design choices going on atm.

I feel you about almost losing a strat while using the new map. There is a simple way to prevent that. Click into your settings and then find the check box for using the new map. Unclick it and bingo you are back to the old map. Problem solved.

As an aside there is a reason why no one uses goggle earth as their gps when they are driving down the highway. There is just too much going on in google earth for it to be useful when you are driving at highspeeds while trying to concentrate on not crashing. CCP's new map is the equivalent of google earth for eve. It looks kinda cool, but three is too much going on so it is totally useless unless you are sitting still and there is no possibility of someone shooting at you.

maybe i m misunderstanding too ,but in the beta map i cant just see all "empire &pirate faction" 's stations as in the normal map :
it is very helpfull when you want to dock in null

after you used "marker station" what you check to find this you can dock in null ? ( pirate one )

thanks

http://imgur.com/a/tXtvo

Please take a look at these screenshots. The first one shows how to turn on the station marker, and the second shows how you can mouse over the marker popup to warp/align/dock.

absolutly, the real interest to see docked station ( in this case pirat's one ) in null is when you zoom out to choice your road in the région without to been necessary to mousse point every station
it is very helpfull and from my point it is a needed option

I've been away from scanning a bit (Real World interference) but I do get some time in on a monthly basis.

There appears to be some background improvements in the interface response but the primary issues at fault are still very prevalent.

i.) Probes do not have priority for object interaction. If probes land on a planet, moon, etc... then trying to move the probes again becomes a pain and increases required probe time.... not good in LS and WH.

ii.) When trying to establish travel bookmarks (safespots, etc...) the I am here icon movement is not fluid but rather jumps to its warpto location. The smoothness in the old map needs to be replicated in the new map.

iii.) Identifying hotspots seems to be a bit better than than its original incarnation, however, it pales in comparison to the old map which was a bit of a nuisance before. The switching interface for hotspot activity is nice but the readability for surrounding systems and the activity is still difficult to determine true hotspot activity.


For now, the old map still out performs but keep up the good work on background improvements. Hopefully the new map gets some dedicated love soon.

Dear CCP, maybe my frustration with the new map didn't really worry you. I get it, I am just a no name forum alt, but now trinkets friend is upset.
He doesn't get upset over petty stuff. This is serious and please pay attention to detail regarding the new map development. It is the most used tool in the game, I can deduct this statistic without seeing any data on it.

Do some surveys maybe, not sure what else to say that is constructive, many concerns raised in this thread and really there is not much to suggests anymore.