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How to kill a Garmur
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Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#61 - 2015-05-19 19:38:14 UTC
Muninn :D

Or more realistically svipul with 280s and titanium sabot and x2 TE. 40-50km range, massive alpha and can go over 4k/s with heat before links/implants. Think it took me 3 shots to end them.

Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role - OP SUCCESS

Make the Muninn great again!
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#62 - 2015-05-20 05:49:52 UTC  |  Edited by: wilgotna
burt you are crazy if you think you can scram a garmur with a comet when both ships are doing 10kms

the garmur pilot would have to be socket closed for that to happen

garmurs realistically dont engage targets that can do over 3kms because then their light missiles cant reliably hit
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2015-05-20 07:50:03 UTC
Garmur missiles can comfortably hit ship faster than 3 km/s, tbh
Burtakus
Lone W0lf Society
#64 - 2015-05-20 12:48:34 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
burt you are crazy if you think you can scram a garmur with a comet when both ships are doing 10kms

the garmur pilot would have to be socket closed for that to happen

garmurs realistically dont engage targets that can do over 3kms because then their light missiles cant reliably hit


Of all the garmurs I have killed in comets only once was i scram fit, and i had to scram him when we were both doing 9k +/- in open space starting 100km apart.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#65 - 2015-05-20 14:48:15 UTC
I might start fitting a defensive scram. The tears will be glorious.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#66 - 2015-05-20 22:06:26 UTC
Rail thorax with painter and decent tracking mods. If it stays in a regular orbit drone it into space dust. If it flies manually then the rails will get it in a turn.

Garmurs are more sexy km than OP frigates. They die all the time.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#67 - 2015-05-21 12:27:40 UTC
Fapfapfap
Skelee VI
Appetite 4 Destruction
#68 - 2015-05-31 00:11:56 UTC
Garmur are easily k8lled. I would use a sentinel or an imperial navy slicer. Arty dram good too.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2015-06-01 14:49:30 UTC
Skelee VI wrote:
Garmur are easily k8lled. I would use a sentinel or an imperial navy slicer. Arty dram good too.

A Sentinel is easy pickings for a Garmur. Garmur can stay out of your neutralizer range, is not effected by your tracking disruptor, and is way faster than you. Can kill your drones if he has to. The only way a Sentinel wins is he he lands in neut range which is easier said than done especially with the slow speed of the Sentinel.
Darth Magus
The Lone Magus
#70 - 2015-06-11 05:47:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Magus
Read all 4 pages....

decent/OK suggestions, but none of them hit the mark...


Here is a riddle:

Garmur (pimped/boosted/Hi-Grade Snakes)

HI's:
3 x Light Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile)

Mid's:
Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
2x Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I (Targeting Range Dampening Script)

Low's:
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II

Rigs:
2 x Small Ionic Field Projector II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
_______________________________________

Hunts in low-sec (so booster alt is easy)
13km/s OH and something like 8km/s cold

Also has the 5% agility implant [Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705]
and 5% speed [Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link]

Nothing ranged could ever hit it due to dual damps...unless - you specifically counter-fit with like a SEBO (or 2) in which case you're probably screwed against anything else that comes in
Darth Magus
The Lone Magus
#71 - 2015-06-11 05:53:36 UTC
Darth Magus wrote:
Read all 4 pages....

decent/OK suggestions, but none of them hit the mark...


Here is a riddle:

Garmur (pimped/boosted/Hi-Grade Snakes)

HI's:
3 x Light Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile)

Mid's:
Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
2x Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I (Targeting Range Dampening Script)

Low's:
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II

Rigs:
2 x Small Ionic Field Projector II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
_______________________________________

Hunts in low-sec (so booster alt is easy)
13km/s OH and something like 8km/s cold

Also has the 5% agility implant [Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705]
and 5% speed [Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link]

Nothing ranged could ever hit it due to dual damps...unless - you specifically counter-fit with like a SEBO (or 2) in which case you're probably screwed against anything else that comes in



...forgot to mention - thing hunts in FW plexes (small/novice) so upshipping to a Cruiser or bigger is not an option. If in novice - nothing could kill it? (cant upship)
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#72 - 2015-06-11 10:51:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
No offense but, I would literally slaughter that garmur. It wouldnt even know what hit it.

And i wouldnt do it in a garmur either.

FYI that fit is not even close to that fast.
Darth Magus
The Lone Magus
#73 - 2015-06-11 11:09:55 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
No offense but, I would literally slaughter that garmur. It wouldnt even know what hit it.

And i wouldnt do it in a garmur either.

FYI that fit is not even close to that fast.


Ok I stand corrected, I just ran the #'s and you are correct.

This Garmur goes 6.3 km/s cold and 8.9 km/s OH with maxed skills, maxed Links (Astarte for example), Hi-Grade Snakes, Zor and Quafe...
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#74 - 2015-06-11 11:25:14 UTC
You did your numbers wrong, its a little faster than that.

Either way, garmurs without defensive scram are always far easier to kill.
Burtakus
Lone W0lf Society
#75 - 2015-06-12 18:53:26 UTC
When flying my comet I call this a treat. Could you please not be a scrub though and upgrade to an A-type MWD and an RF Point so I can call you a tasty treat.

Then please find a novice plex in the Martoh area so I can collect nice loot from you.

Darth Magus wrote:
Read all 4 pages....

decent/OK suggestions, but none of them hit the mark...


Here is a riddle:

Garmur (pimped/boosted/Hi-Grade Snakes)

HI's:
3 x Light Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile)

Mid's:
Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
2x Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I (Targeting Range Dampening Script)

Low's:
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II

Rigs:
2 x Small Ionic Field Projector II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
_______________________________________

Hunts in low-sec (so booster alt is easy)
13km/s OH and something like 8km/s cold

Also has the 5% agility implant [Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705]
and 5% speed [Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link]

Nothing ranged could ever hit it due to dual damps...unless - you specifically counter-fit with like a SEBO (or 2) in which case you're probably screwed against anything else that comes in
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#76 - 2015-06-13 08:43:46 UTC
Lol crosi I knew you actually think you're good you risk-averse baddie.

To the thread though, the answer is you just need to be a good pilot and engage a bad garmur. Flying a garmur is doing something very easy. Fighting a garmur is doing something very difficult.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#77 - 2015-06-13 11:11:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
TrouserDeagle wrote:
Lol crosi I knew you actually think you're good you risk-averse baddie.

To the thread though, the answer is you just need to be a good pilot and engage a bad garmur. Flying a garmur is doing something very easy. Fighting a garmur is doing something very difficult.


By risk averse, lets be clear. I dont engage drams obviously fit to counter garmurs in my non d-scram garmur. Since all i ever see you in is a dram (while criticising garmurs for being easy?!?!) it might look like risk aversion.

Interestingly, whenever i can reship to a frigate that i dont mind taking on drams in you leave local :)

We both know garmurs are easy to kill, yet me saying so is 'thinking im good' lol. I realise that through some perverse logic, your esteem for me would rise if i let you kill me , until i start caring what you think you will just have to remain awefully bitter.
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#78 - 2015-06-13 12:00:45 UTC
It gets nuts with the links snakes and faction. The #1 counter to garmurs becomes useless against them, like an AB frig snagged by whatever kiter you choose. The difference in speed and range is crazy huge. I don't go after garmurs with as much cheese as yours, because they're impossible. Everyone except you realises this, which is why you're bad.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#79 - 2015-06-13 14:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
These clowns that choose the 'trusolo' route with empty clones because its hard and they want e-respect. Then they complain that its too hard lol.

Ive killed snaked, linked garmurs, some of the easiest fights ive had. The only risk involved is that they will run away. But thats the same as any ship, condor and up. All i do is use things that are available in the game. Its amazing how enraged people get about legitimate sanctioned game mechanics. Specially ironic coming from some blob cartel snufd pet.

I know it would be best if there was only one ship and a single fitting for everyone to use to make eve the fair game it should be. Like pong.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#80 - 2015-06-13 16:48:36 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
These clowns that choose the 'trusolo' route with empty clones because its hard and they want e-respect. Then they complain that its too hard lol.

Ive killed snaked, linked garmurs, some of the easiest fights ive had. The only risk involved is that they will run away. But thats the same as any ship, condor and up. All i do is use things that are available in the game. Its amazing how enraged people get about legitimate sanctioned game mechanics. Specially ironic coming from some blob cartel snufd pet.

I know it would be best if there was only one ship and a single fitting for everyone to use to make eve the fair game it should be. Like pong.


Oh come on Crosi! Pong was a fun game.