EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

I have participated the last three years in the Ally tournament and within our corp we are actively working towards the tournament, organizing regular trainings and moving all members to participate for months.

Now I see a fundamental flaw in the random draw.

There are this year many alliances that want to participate and you picked out 48 randomly and obviously we are not one of them.

With an additional 12 alliances already rule int there are only 4 spots left and we need to bid on them knowing there are about 23 potential participants that want to join. Since we are unable to get together the plexes to bid on this only the most rich alliances will be able to join.

However there might be a lot of the 48 random alliances which might not necessarily be that keen to participate but are just happy to be part of it.

At the end the really motivated corporations might stay out due to the lack of spots.

It would have made way more sense to reduce the number of random draws.

If we loose the silent bid, my motivation for the game and the ally tournament will heavily be impacted as we cannot even switch corp to be still part of it.

I know this sounds like whining but what I definately lack is some balance between those who really want to participate and how some free slots might have been given to alliances which are not as motivated as we are. You might argue we just have to give a high bid on the silent bidding but we just cannot afford it.

Regards,

The lack of arenas is the reason that all the teams that want to compete do not have a chance to compete.

A preliminary round could theoretically use a double-elimination format to get down to the correct number of teams (64) going into the tournament proper.

you mad u goober? LOL

cannot agree more.

Yes,
that is the word I am looking for. "Favourism". Thank you Mr. WehavefourteamsinAT.
I honestly do not think it is corruption, only favourism.

From a mathematical standpoint, It is just remotely probable that some alliances have never ever been "drawn" in the past years, whereas others have ALL their four teams in, in the same year.
Maybe my math is just wrong? Pls show your calculation!

Otherwise, the fact of having four teams in AT will lead to a lot of fake matches. Or shall I call it teams strategy?
A situation we have seen before and CCP promised to make sure it will not happen again.

*I would like to precise that I take PL as an example, I appreciate the fact that PL is in AT and will provide great entertainment and most likely also beat my favourite crew.


No. I say mathematicaly, it has such a low probability that it allows for conclusions to be drawn.
Plus the broken promise from CCP to make sure multiple teams from the same entity will not be allowed to manipulate AT again.
Plus the fact that CCP made sure to directly assign >90% of the slots.

It is ridiculous.

What I would really like is a statement from CCP.

Why was there no communication about which alliances have applied?
Why have only 4 spots been left over for the silent auction?
Why is the silent auction so short term?
Why do we not know who is bidding?
Why has the draw not be done publicly but just the result announced? Question was answered!
Why were some alliances allowed to have alt-alliances to join?

I do not doubt that the draw was done properly but the result definately does not feel correct!

You will miss some nice alliances and eventually you actually have 94% give away and the rest needs to bet like 20+ plexes to be in.

CCP do you thing this is fair?
Does this feel right?

Regards,

The random draw was totally fair (check the vid). There was no wrongdoing or cherry picking of teams by CCP. The only real shame here is that lots of teams will be left out.

Well, you have two teams, so there's no way your opinion could be fair and balanced, right? ;)

I'm still trying to figure out who our fourth team could be, though. They might have some good setups we could use.

I take umbrage at the statement below. As a team who has participated in two tournaments and was lucky to get into this draw we are extraordinarily motivated even if we are not the most pro team around. I doubt that any team that has joined is not giving it a red hot go based on what I have seen at test open practice.

However there might be a lot of the 48 random alliances which might not necessarily be that keen to participate but are just happy to be part of it.

It's also unfair to call pandemic horde an alt corp of PL when they are in fact as starter corp. I for one would love to play against PH.

One the topic of missing out I can understand that it sucks and I too would be very down in you place. I agree random draw is probably not the best way to select teams.

It would also be nice if there was a drafting time post draw. Allowing team captains to post for pilots with specific skills from teams that never made it In and allow transfers through a petition or something. However that is only going to add to the complexity for the volunteers at ccp.

Another option is to just let all teams enter then do a random draw for the 48 spots and instead of doing silent auction run a set of elimination matches for the last 4 spots.

CCP Logibro is a good guy and i am damn sure the draw was legit so this conspiracy it pointless in my opinion.

The fact that some good teams won't get in this year is however is really sad for me, this method is clearly is not suited to enable the most competitive tournament possible anymore.

It's fantastic to see that 90 teams have put themselves forward, proving there are potentially thousands of players interested in eve e-sports now, hopefully CCP take this and run with it.