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Why does caldari militia fail? Your viewsplease

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Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#181 - 2011-12-28 22:07:56 UTC
If you are not making billions from plexes (not missions) in Fw your doing it wrong! Do an eve search and we have to thank Pervs for telling us how to do this!

Jumps in for a sniper!
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#182 - 2011-12-28 22:09:30 UTC
I like where FW is headed atm.

The plexes are getting round the clock attention, somthing of a novelty to the late US TZ, promptly provoking fights of all sizes in all classes - this is definitly a good thing.

Slowly the nessessity of having a good FC and fearing a bad, but large fight are disapating and the smaller pvp gangs picking up as well as the larger stuff. More gangs out willing to take more fights FC be damned.

FW lacked enthusiasum for a while but i think that, morale and more good fights is making things better by the day.

I cant comment directly on caldari fw of course, this is what ive obversed from amarr/minnie.

Long may it continue, and to those at ccp that might read somthing from time to time, a little is nice but more is better - dont think you are done just yet.

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Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#183 - 2011-12-28 22:53:18 UTC
I just took a look on our killboard, and it seems that we're having more small engagements than big ones. I had to go back to the 2nd page on our KB to see a kill with over 10 people on it. Even then, it was only 12. I'm not seeing all that many 'big fleet' engagments in my late US TZ. Even when it's east coast prime time, there's not all that many big fleets for us Qcats. Heck, I had to go all the way back to page 6 to find a fight over 20!!! And that's just a couple of us Qcats on a roam with another FW corp!

Maybe for us it's a lack of 'Veteran' FC Ammon Dei, but I'd say that it's allowed us as a corp to get better at our own personal PVP skills and not just listen to the FC give commands. I know it's helped me.

Either way, spread out constant plexes everywhere allows the more active militias to take more space. It also seems to keep fleets smaller! I likes!

*how did this get turned into something other than Cal Mil sux?*

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper

Julius Foederatus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2011-12-28 23:36:14 UTC
I don't know but this thread needs to die and new ones need to spring up in its place. You all couldn't stay on topic if it had a big pair of **** that had "touch me" tattooed on them.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#185 - 2011-12-29 00:09:17 UTC
Julius Foederatus wrote:
I don't know but this thread needs to die and new ones need to spring up in its place. You all couldn't stay on topic if it had a big pair of **** that had "touch me" tattooed on them.


excellent contribution.

thanks for posting.

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.

Julius Foederatus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#186 - 2011-12-29 01:03:18 UTC
It's just as much a contribution as anything in this thread. This is a thread about Caldari militia and you're posting about plexing in Amarr space and why you think it's the greatest thing since pie. Hardly relevant to what the thread's chosen topic is.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#187 - 2011-12-29 01:59:09 UTC
I like pie.


Also, need new threads to spring up in this ones place? Shall all the caldari corps wardec eachother? I'm sure well have two pages of drama in no time Big smile But that would be so 2010...
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#188 - 2011-12-29 14:17:52 UTC
Interesting read and interesting points raised. From both sides.

I am CEO of a small corp. Few new, few old players. Seen and done most things.

Faction War seemed like a good way to pvp without growing larger and heading into 0.0 or dealing with the politics of other corps or joining an alliance. I doubt anyone would take a small corp like us anyway.

For the most part recently the faction war seemed to be enjoyed by the members of CNO. That was until Caldari were driven out of Enaluri. I am far too young in FW to know the years of history so please forgive me if I appear to be talking out of my bottom.


Isn't it and I mean FW ment to be about fun? When a game and lets remember EvE is a game stops being fun people leave. Where is the fun in 10 v 1? or 20 v 10? or working hard to take back a plex with say 8 people and spending hours getting that bunker to zero shield, working hard on the armour only to have 30+ of the enemy hungry to kill you? Is that fun? It wasn't so fun for me to waste a lot of time shooting a thing in space to be driven off.

It was fun getting shot at by a Thorax while I was in a Manticore shooting at the bunker while in fleet with 8 other ships. I knew it would happen by the way. So I re-ship and come back to shoot at the bunker again because I felt I had to do my duty and help out in getting a foot hold in what is Caldari space. It wasn't fun being driven off by those 30+ ships.

Still. I am still here.

It causes me pain to see many leave, give up and get bored of being as many say (Blobbed)

Again I know im new to FW and many might say that Caldari have done it the day of this or the day of that. OK I get it. What goes around comes around.

But now what will happen?

Yes Caldari will come back in time. How long? No idea.

For the time being I see the Gallente moving more into high sec and setting up gate camps hoping to catch FW members because not enough fleet's from Caldari are trying to take back plexs or posing for a fight.

I see Gallente having help or appear to from pirates in and around Enaluri. (Am I wrong?) Maybe Caldari have done that in the past? I don't know.


Is all of this fun? I cannot abide sitting at gates for very long.

I cannot imagine finding that fun in any sec as 10 or more catching one litle fish now and then?

Maybe I am just a different breed with different morals and a different idea of what fun is?

OK now I turn into a ramble.

Point is it will turn around. People come, people go. But it will come back and who knows it might be FUN again one day.

Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#189 - 2011-12-29 14:46:45 UTC
Cryissa wrote:
Is all of this fun? I cannot abide sitting at gates for very long.

I cannot imagine finding that fun in any sec as 10 or more catching one litle fish now and then?

Maybe I am just a different breed with different morals and a different idea of what fun is?


Gallentes wont be bored by any of that. Very few people get bored by one-sided ganks in Eve. Most people are horrified of losing ships and despite boasting, most people are not in eve for good fights or challenges. They want ganks and then go on forums to boast about it. Just consider OP of this thread, another "grass is greener on this side" class of people. In old times they were called turncoats or just cowards. In Eve he is most likely praised for his "foresight".
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#190 - 2011-12-29 15:16:28 UTC
Cryissa wrote:
Interesting read and interesting points raised. From both sides.

I see Gallente having help or appear to from pirates in and around Enaluri. (Am I wrong?) Maybe Caldari have done that in the past? I don't know.




Most of the pirates that are/were active in Enaluri are not friendly Gallente.

The perceived blob during the US TZ at least is generally free roaming players that just pay attention to intel channels, and keep a fairly decent stock of ships on hand for all kinds of engagements. When a target is spotted, we rally and see if we have the ships/numbers to counter, sometimes this means all kinds of people come out of the woodwork and we end up with more members than expected.

ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon

Dark Pangolin
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#191 - 2011-12-29 15:27:16 UTC
Fidelium Mortis wrote:
Cryissa wrote:
Interesting read and interesting points raised. From both sides.

I see Gallente having help or appear to from pirates in and around Enaluri. (Am I wrong?) Maybe Caldari have done that in the past? I don't know.




Most of the pirates that are/were active in Enaluri are not friendly Gallente.

The perceived blob during the US TZ at least is generally free roaming players that just pay attention to intel channels, and keep a fairly decent stock of ships on hand for all kinds of engagements. When a target is spotted, we rally and see if we have the ships/numbers to counter, sometimes this means all kinds of people come out of the woodwork and we end up with more members than expected.


Just to be clear, both sides have had dealing with pirates at one time or the other.

The pirates generally go where the easy kills are, and CalMil offered the easy kills. At least for the classic "I have a carrier alt and I sit on the undock" pirates. (this BTW is a reason to quit EVE if I ever saw one).

The Gal line (especially from Q-Cats) has always been, "we don't mean to blob, we just have a lot of guys who want pew pew" I honestly believe it coming from the Q-Cats.

The hard line truth is that for a whole number of reasons, many of which have been beaten to death in this thread, CalMil has had an exodus in the past month or so. Similar to what happened about 1.5-2 yrs ago. The one difference I see is that 1.5-2yrs ago you could pull 30-60 guys form gen mil, they were inexperienced and generally we got pwned, but we could get them. The last time I tried to pull a gen mil fleet together I got 7 corp members and 2 state pro guys in Jita...
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#192 - 2011-12-29 15:32:55 UTC
Dark Pangolin wrote:
The last time I tried to pull a gen mil fleet together I got 7 corp members and 2 state pro guys in Jita...


Well, militia channel tends to have more gallente troll alts than proper human beings so that's hard to get by. You know, the old character who is still an ensign in rank and has 0 kills on any board and spends his time openly boasting he is a spy or asking for shuttle fits...

Playing Eve teaches you a lot about your fellow man does it not? Mittani put it best in his recent article where Eve players either become bozos or brownshirts, unless they do the reasonable thing and run for the exit, never to return.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2011-12-29 16:31:20 UTC
Damar Rocarion wrote:
Well, militia channel tends to have more gallente troll alts than proper human beings so that's hard to get by.


Eeeeyup, typical Caldari militia - blame the Gallente for everything, even your own failures.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Dark Pangolin
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#194 - 2011-12-29 16:41:14 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Damar Rocarion wrote:
Well, militia channel tends to have more gallente troll alts than proper human beings so that's hard to get by.


Eeeeyup, typical Caldari militia - blame the Gallente for everything, even your own failures.


Not that I'm against forum flaming, but who are you exactly? I don't ever remember killing you. And you don't ever appear to have been in either militia. Are you counting I-RED (the Caldari RP Alliance that fights for the Galente...)??

I feel like we need to get people to post their FW credentials..."I was in FW in 2007 for 3 months therefore..."

MMMMMM I <3 holiday time at work, there is nothing to do but browse forums!
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#195 - 2011-12-29 16:51:03 UTC
Has there been a concerted effort by the CalMil to recruit corps looking to PvP? With stuff stirring in null sec I would imagine there's a few displaced corps out there that might be interested in making a home in low-sec. Also what about the recruitment channel or people coming out of RvB looking for some harder hitting fights?

ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon

Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#196 - 2011-12-29 16:58:14 UTC
It might be time for 'scheduled frig fights' kinda thing.

Then the squids would get a chance for some sort of even fight and nobody risks too much.

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper

Garbad theWeak
#197 - 2011-12-29 17:02:01 UTC
Garr Earthbender wrote:
It might be time for 'scheduled frig fights' kinda thing.

Then the squids would get a chance for some sort of even fight and nobody risks too much.
...then loren gallen undocks travarion's carrier.
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#198 - 2011-12-29 17:03:00 UTC
Garr Earthbender wrote:
It might be time for 'scheduled frig fights' kinda thing.

Then the squids would get a chance for some sort of even fight and nobody risks too much.


In other words, attempt to get people to humiliate themselves publicly by accepting something as moronic as agreed duels while you boast "am I not merciful for giving them a chance" in these forums?




chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#199 - 2011-12-29 17:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Damar Rocarion wrote:
Garr Earthbender wrote:
It might be time for 'scheduled frig fights' kinda thing.

Then the squids would get a chance for some sort of even fight and nobody risks too much.


In other words, attempt to get people to humiliate themselves publicly by accepting something as moronic as agreed duels while you boast "am I not merciful for giving them a chance" in these forums?



Moronic is thinking that accepting an agreed duel is somehow humiliating...

EDIT: @Dark Pangolin: Yes, holiday time at work is great :)
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#200 - 2011-12-29 17:20:51 UTC
Hopefully the next expansion, "War", will have something for FW in it that will attract some new blood to FW. Until then, FW is still the best place to be if you live in lowsec.


In response to Dark's post: I'm Andre, I've been in Gall Mill for about 3 years. You may never see me, but I'm there in my Helios watching you, waiting.

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