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A Question for the Pirates

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flakeys
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-06-10 18:53:55 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Vartan Sarkisian wrote:
flakeys wrote:


The OP means pirating in the same sense as i do btw and as most oldschoolers know them wich means guys who wander around in low-sec belonging to no side of the FW factions and just shooting anything that passes.Though it used to involve randsoming in the old days too but that died off a long long time ago.



Indeed, this is my take on it. I am happy not to pod (am I bad?) just looking for good fights. My limited experience doing this is that most of the good fights will come from the pilots in pirate corps themselves as they tend to fit for combat rather than farming plexes. Null sec is OK but 1 v 1 are rarer than several rare things that don't want to be found.



FW space still has it's place for 1vs1 . Try to live near the gallente guys , i know some of those alliances still do honour their 1vs1 fights.But it just depends who you encounter , in my experience the pirates where the ones who didn't honour their fights when i was pirating myself.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#22 - 2015-06-11 08:50:28 UTC
I remember this one guy, called himself the pirate king.
Miss that canadian bastard.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#23 - 2015-06-11 10:57:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
My definition of pirate are people like Stay Frosty or The Tuskers. I've heard very good things about them


the tuskers are actually quit cool, i remember seeing one in lowsec who asked for help to kill a few others in a plex, i was skeptical it was a trap but i thought why not, but yes they keep their word and for that i tip my hat to tuskers.

you can buy tags or just bite the bullet and go -10.0, use alts for stuff etc

quit a few corps WILL boot you for not honouring

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-06-11 11:38:26 UTC
Don Purple wrote:
I remember this one guy, called himself the pirate king.
Miss that canadian bastard.



Serisouly. What happened to him?

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Vartan Sarkisian
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#25 - 2015-06-11 11:42:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vartan Sarkisian
Lan Wang wrote:
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
My definition of pirate are people like Stay Frosty or The Tuskers. I've heard very good things about them


the tuskers are actually quit cool, i remember seeing one in lowsec who asked for help to kill a few others in a plex, i was skeptical it was a trap but i thought why not, but yes they keep their word and for that i tip my hat to tuskers.

you can buy tags or just bite the bullet and go -10.0, use alts for stuff etc

quit a few corps WILL boot you for not honouring


I've heard good things about The Tuskers and Stay Frosty although I am sure there are other pirate corps that have a good reputation/name too i've never really investigated that area of EvE so unsure.

I've heard about these tags, not sure of their costs but someone said there is a "handing in cost" on top of the cost of the actual tags. I've already said that I am not ready to go -10, I may never be, I am a single account, no alts except same account alts and their skills are limiting/limited, if I go -10 my alts cannot fly all the ships I can so because this toon would not be able to dock in HS, and my account alts cannot fly those ships It would cost a fortune in getting stuff jumped into low sec.

In saying all that I think I have a plan, my current corp is in null sec, I like that, we have some history and I like the "story" of our corp in terms of the events that have happened since I've been with them, although 1v1 are rare (tends to be gangs or billions (ok maybe not billions) of svipuls or garmurs), ill drop a couple jump clones around, one near each of the pirate groups that I have heard about and then go out roaming, ill hopefully find pirates to fight, ill lose a bit of sec status and then head back to null to do a couple of anoms to build up sec status again, from what I read on some blogs a frustration pirates have is that a good percentage of the people they fight just fit WCS in the lows to escape, Iwont be doing that... so (as Erroll Brown once said) Everyone's a winner baby.

Pirates will get a fight (and probably a kill because I am bad) and Ill get pvp out of it.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#26 - 2015-06-11 12:13:54 UTC
when i was in null i use to take "holidays" to black rise where i could frig pvp solo, it didnt really matter about sec because i would just rat in null and it would go back up. sec status losses will happen more if you pod people

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#27 - 2015-06-11 14:50:35 UTC
In regards to tags yeah, they can get you from -10 back to zero lickity split, but it ain't cheap.

Good lord it ain't cheap.

As regards 'piracy', about the only piracy I can think of is getting mission bears to agress you and then ransoming their shiny bling boats. Or if they refuse ransom, looting their shiny bling boats and hoping the loot fairy is kind.

There is also freighter popping.......CODE has it down to an assembly line, but there method requires quite a bit of planning and players. But man you can rake in the ISK like nothing else.


There is also corp theft/ransom......which now requires more finesse. But you would be surprised by how many large corps still have 'friendly fire' switched on.

But the old skool 'pirate' who roams the lowsex looking for a juicy miner or idiot hauler......pretty much extinct nowadays.

All the fat bears tend to live in hisec.....:)

As for pirating in null.......usually not doable, as all the juicy targets are in sov space, and bubbles/interceptors abound.

But hey, you don't have to worry about sec status. If you try it about the only place it works is Syndicate, due to all the NPC stations etc.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#28 - 2015-06-11 15:28:00 UTC
If you want to solo pirate in lowsec (IE hold people for ransom, etc.) your best bet is to hunt DED site runners/FW mission runners. Having said that, you need to be able to probe sites, tackle T3 cruisers/hacs, and kill them before their friends show up.

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Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-06-11 16:16:57 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
My definition of pirate are people like Stay Frosty or The Tuskers. I've heard very good things about them


the tuskers are actually quit cool, i remember seeing one in lowsec who asked for help to kill a few others in a plex, i was skeptical it was a trap but i thought why not, but yes they keep their word and for that i tip my hat to tuskers.

you can buy tags or just bite the bullet and go -10.0, use alts for stuff etc

quit a few corps WILL boot you for not honouring


To add to this our word is our bond and that is part of the code we all follow. If you are in fleet with us or have been called in to help, your safety is guaranteed.

Any deviation to the code we sign up for on application is harshly dealt with and investigated heavily.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-06-11 18:01:27 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
In regards to tags yeah, they can get you from -10 back to zero lickity split, but it ain't cheap.

Good lord it ain't cheap.

As regards 'piracy', about the only piracy I can think of is getting mission bears to agress you and then ransoming their shiny bling boats. Or if they refuse ransom, looting their shiny bling boats and hoping the loot fairy is kind.

There is also freighter popping.......CODE has it down to an assembly line, but there method requires quite a bit of planning and players. But man you can rake in the ISK like nothing else.


There is also corp theft/ransom......which now requires more finesse. But you would be surprised by how many large corps still have 'friendly fire' switched on.

But the old skool 'pirate' who roams the lowsex looking for a juicy miner or idiot hauler......pretty much extinct nowadays.

All the fat bears tend to live in hisec.....:)

As for pirating in null.......usually not doable, as all the juicy targets are in sov space, and bubbles/interceptors abound.

But hey, you don't have to worry about sec status. If you try it about the only place it works is Syndicate, due to all the NPC stations etc.


https://zkillboard.com/kill/47186703/

Galmil corp I fly with sometimes did this two nights ago (sadly I was not with them).

You can still catch idiots in lowsec. It is not a daily occurrence and it requires effort, which is the way things should work. As Thanatos said, having a dedicated combat prober with a skilled pilot in fleet is INVALUABLE. I have killed mining barges in lowsec and haulers can be caught if you have a proper sebo'd gate camp with multiple or faction points to contend with stabs (or a HIC).

The prevalence and ease of mindless blob hunting is the reason you don't often see people attempting PvE activities outside of highsec, but there are still targets and ways to attend to them. Explorers are pretty common in lowsec and some parts of null, and going after those in a cloaky hunter Astero can be highly entertaining (especially with the high drop rate of SoE probe launchers).

It helps greatly to have competent friends and a good plan. A properly set up gate camp (instalock, long range webs, cloaked scouts), an unconventional bait ship, or far-ranging fast scouts in ceptors with combat probe support are just some of the ways to "pirate" outside highsec. It's not supposed to be easy to gank people who don't want to fight.
IcyMind Arierep
The Soul Society
Fraternity.
#31 - 2015-06-11 20:52:29 UTC
Switch Savage wrote:
Piracy is far from dead. Certainly the times have changed and you have to change with them but it is still very much alive. As for keeping your security status above 2 (i presume you mean -2). It is really not that hard to maintain without tags if you just run belts from time to time and don't pod anyone.


Totally agree with this comment, just rat once in a while and don't pod. Once you start podding you'll go -2 lower quickly.
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2015-06-11 22:18:14 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Don Purple wrote:
I remember this one guy, called himself the pirate king.
Miss that canadian bastard.



Serisouly. What happened to him?

No csm for 3? Times.
I heard he greatly dislikes where the game went / is going.
Last word was he had no plans of returning to eve.
I hope he is doing well.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Vartan Sarkisian
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#33 - 2015-06-12 09:15:01 UTC
Thanks for all the input everyone, you never know we may be 1v1ing in low sec at some point.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#34 - 2015-06-12 09:16:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Vartan Sarkisian wrote:
Thanks for all the input everyone, you never know we may be 1v1ing in low sec at some point.


doubt it, ill drop 25 blops on your tristan just for lolmails ;) nah just jokin, good luck and hope you find your 1v1's :)

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2015-06-12 13:36:46 UTC
flying like the Tuskers or stay frosty you say?
no way for pos. sec....the squishy sound of exploding pods is just too funny

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Nofear Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#36 - 2015-06-12 13:49:37 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?

I ask on behalf of my main who has recently wandered into low sec and fought against a couple of pirates, it was good fun and you seem to be able to get 1v1 fights (as long as you target the pirates who are more honourable than the WCS fitted everybody else).

Now my main character, being my main does everything, including going out to high sec to replenish ships etc and my two other account alts have too low a SP level to be of much use, plus not sure if I am ready to trash my +5 to -10 just yet.

C&P Law one
Post with your main or gtfo
Your one free pass answer. Not very viable if you do it on a regular basis. You will likely generate kill rights which will generate issues for a high sec dweller. There aren't a lot of people in lowsec not looking for fights so 'pirating' is pretty rare. If you really want that Yarr feeling find a null bear bearing it up in a shiney or a high sec bear and bait him into aggression. Now if its fights you want it sounds like you already found where to be.

PS post with your main next time for greater community response in this forum


Under what authority do you believe you can make rules in this forum?

Alt and proud
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#37 - 2015-06-12 13:56:17 UTC
Nofear Alt wrote:
mindless rabble



Funny you should ask that.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=426574&find=unread

Read da link.

You are in violation of Rule One.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Vartan Sarkisian
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#38 - 2015-06-12 14:11:10 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
flying like the Tuskers or stay frosty you say?
no way for pos. sec....the squishy sound of exploding pods is just too funny


As long as fun is had, and right now, I need some fun in the game.
Nofear Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#39 - 2015-06-12 14:45:46 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Nofear Alt wrote:
mindless rabble


Blah blah insignificant ramblings

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=426574&find=unread

Read da link.

You are in violation of Rule One.


I see no CCP in the title so rule One means nothing to me or anyone else

You guys crack me up with your pathetic little power play

Sad sad sad

Alt and proud
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#40 - 2015-06-12 18:16:02 UTC
What power play? Guess you didn't read the post after all.

And what cracks me up is someone who is such a coward...in a video game....that they are afraid to post with their main.

And yes, you are a sad, sad person.

So why exactly do you play EVE if you are such a loser you are afraid to use your main to post?

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.