EVE General Discussion

More or less yes... but one of the big problems is that players that dont want to do pvp, is that when they do what other Things than pvp, pvp gets forced upon them, even tho they dont want to.

Tough ****? You agree to PvP the second you undock. It's about time you understood that.

The law of diminishing returns applies in this case imo.

All things will diminish in their appeal over time if done enough. Youll need more adrenaline in PvP so u fly bigger or more expensive ships so that its "worth" more and therefore gives you a bigger rush. Youll need bigger battles, better kills, more kills, etc. But eventually you wont get the same psychological return. The same goes with PvE. Isk making ceilings that CCP implements into the game with skills requirements, ship stats and other issues will limit this with a very few exceptions which will usually be nerfed, tailored back or removed by CCP to ensure isk inflation isnt to severe and to create a grind element that is inherent in almost all MMO style games these days.

Yes new content is added, but it is still of the variants of the old building blocks, in fact you really cannot give truly "new" content as youd have to rewrite the building blocks of your universe. So for those looking for "new", "fresh", "exciting" content in this way will leave disappointed. In this regard PvE newness is the quickest to master due to its nature of being coded AI and very limited in stature. It is in fact a limitation of AI and coding that PvP doesnt have in a sense but people are still an intelligence and still limited in many ways, even though Im sure many will argue that to be false. But because PvP is human to human interaction the unknown factors last a lot longer and therefore the unpredictability enhances the emotional, mental and psychological rewards and keeps it going longer. CCP then tries to extend this by changing the rules of the gaming world we live in to get a longer reward cycle.

Yet a person will still get to the point where your enjoyment diminishes over time in all areas of Eve. Its really inherent in any structure of real life as well.

Tbh this is occurring to me after 12 years so I understand the OPs POV. Im just thankful that Eve was deep enough that its lasted this long. Most games dont hold their appeal nearly that long. Hell Elite Dangerous lasted all of 2 weeks for me in comparison. To realize that the draws arent there anymore is a regretful thing. To want the old sweetness back is something that humanity has held onto for ages; the desire for the old to be young again and experience the joys of youth are a most classic example. Some can remake it, most unfortunately cant.

I still log in every day and show up, hoping for more of a spark, trying to get back into the banter with corpies and other random friends Ive found over the years, still shoot a few red crosses, or mine a few holds of ores, or shoot a few people in the face but I dont expect to get the same joy I felt in the first years Ive played. Sure maybe itll change but Im not under any delusions that it shall and Im okay with that and can accept that. Can praise CCP for what they have given me these 12 years and hope to spur on others to maybe see that there is more to it as well. But the desire to log in is less these days. Fewer goals, fewer things left to accomplish in game. But that is like growing old in real life as well.

Maybe its time to give back then? Maybe in the old age of Eve gaming we need to ask ourselves what we can give to a game thats provided us so much entertainment and joy? Or maybe its just the ramblings of the Old Eve man sitting on the jita 4-4 station park bench feeding the pigeons and watching the fights outside the station window..... maybe....

To cover a growing bald spot? I keep accidentally helping newbies.

My locks are full and bouncy!

I have no idea why I want it. Might be some inner britishness that makes me crave it

The sad thing is, I don't think he is trolling.

I don't know about you but I much prefer pitchforks.

EvE = Everybody vs. Everybody

I'm an industrialist. I make my own content. Literally.

Saw lack of content. Thought it was about rules. Leaving disappointed...

I have found content to keep me busy for a while, but usually when I take a break is not because of for a lack of, but from doing the same ol grind again and again. But in my case I am branching out into different areas to see what kinds of content I can create not just for me, but for anyone else.

So, as others have said, interacting with others is creating content, sometimes we don't see it till we wake up back in a fresh clone.