Wormholes

For 2 man corp daytripping to WH is better option.

Just ask Hard Knocks, they tend to recruit miners all the time, and they're big so you'll have protection!

Hi Tim,

thank you for your answer.

Well, yes I know that our idea requires a lot of trust. And this seems to be a VERY rare resource here in eve. But I would still not say, that trusting someone is insane.

What can we offer: exactly what you mentioned, scanning and forwarding intel to our neighbours. We are also ready to share what we exploit, lets call it tax or rent. I think the gain, having active partners is higher than the resources we take.

Why we don't want to join a corp? We also want to have the fun with setting up a tower, managing things, explore ALL aspects of the game. We believe in cooperation in open networks between equals. If we had had the plan to join a WH corp, we would have chosen so directly.

The hint about Thera is helpful, so probably that might be our first step to take. How do we get there?

We're currently operating rather close to your idea. We live out of a c4 with c3/c4 static with a general bookmarking corp and people running their own reaction/housing towers. We also fly hurricanes in YC 117.

Again, not to rain on your parade here... let me point out some problems that you're going to have:

1) You say you are going to scan/provide intel for your neighbours. How? Yes, you can say, that the wormhole off your static has a fleet of 100 dreads in it... but what are you going to do about it? Unless you want to fleet up one of their members, or copy bookmarks and jet-can it for people outside your corporation, they won't be able to do anything with your intel, until they scan it out.

Eve doesn't even have an alliance bookmark system yet, let alone a BM system that operates between two distinct corps. If you do move into a WH, you realize you will probably have to pay rent in the order of more than plexing your 2 person corp will cost right?

As someone who has lived in wormhole space for nearly 5 years now, I have to say that i would never accept an offer to have you put up a tower in our WH. The mechanics aren't fleshed out to support it well, and frankly, even if you are a helpful lot, I don't know who else you are helping, and that tells me that I should remove you from my home.

You are trying to equate wormhole space with either what you perceive null to be, or some kind of analogy similar to subleasing an apartment... but unfortunately it's not really that.

Now another HUGE red flag that I see is that you are willing to commit your main part of your eve resources to a small tower. A small tower is not something you should ever live out of. I know you'll have 1 CHA, and 1 SMA, and then maybe some thing for reactions, or something like that, but it won't ever do defensively. I could bring 2 battleships that are self-tanked and stable (i.e. something like RR sentry domis) and reinforce your tower in no time.

Please commit to at least a medium tower. If you are unable to do this, don't live in WH space. It will be bad for you and have a bad time.

Now if you are desperate to live in WH space, look for less desirable WHs, for example, WH with the black hole effect tend to be inhabited a fair bit less than most other effects. Also look at classes of WHs that aren't very popular. C1 wormholes tend to be sporadically occupied, and are never really a prized possession (unless maybe it's an ALT corp that gets by by doing PI or something). You could also look at C2s with static C1s and highs. With your 2 person corp, c1s will be a joke (the combat sites can be run by assault frigs or t1 cruisers, both of which are minimal investments in training time and resources). You'll also get access to home C2 sites, which are a fair bit more profitable, but require more investment in training time and resources (t2 cruisers, very well fit assault frigs, t3 destroyers, or t1 battlecruisers are about the baseline for those).

Now if you are serious about that, I'd probably recommend either one of the options I listed above (I realize now i didn't specify a static for that C1, I'd probably recommend a low-sec static there).

If you have any questions, feel free to ask, as I've done something similar (I used to live in a c2 with a 5 person alt corp that made money off running sites there).

Hi Jonn,

your post could be quite discouraging, if I had not the strong belief, that the diversity of personalities here is a large as in real life.
Therefore I am quite sure to find people that share my attitude: cooperation is a win-win.

I do not doubt your 5 years experience. But I feel like having the right to make my own mistakes ;-)
There are still worse bets than trusting people.

This game, and especially this section of this game, is one that rewards being cautious almost to the point of paranoia. Being trusting generally results in getting blown up and having all your stuff stolen. I recommend only truly trusting people who you have a long history with, or who you actually know in real life. Otherwise you're gonna be eaten up by the judecca.

Or you can just trust everyone.

Remember kiddies: The best ship in Eve is Friendship.

I am kind of paranoid, but with respect to situations and behaviors. I usually fly cloaked, check my D-scan etc.
Like in real life, where I lock my houses door, when I leave. This does not mean, that I consider all people around me being burglars.

About my initial question: the most interesting offers came by mail. So, we will now start our preparations and give it a try.
I will keep you updated, folks.

Hello

You might be lucky, i have found a completely empty wormhole, i'm selling it.
Yep, if you want to get a wormhole which is just as good as you wish, i would advise on buying it. Many people do that.
Check this out. Wormholesales.com.
My wormhole is one of the cheapest on the list.
Also, you're even more lucky for the fact that anybody who lives in a wormhole becomes a potential customer of our services.