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CCP increase subs for Norwegians by almost 50%

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45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#81 - 2015-06-10 02:34:19 UTC
NBTCCP&ISDLOCK lawl

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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#82 - 2015-06-10 05:51:20 UTC
You guys should pay attention. This isn't the first time the Norwegians tried to tell us something important!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXHAwz-dcrs
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2015-06-10 05:56:25 UTC
Elenahina wrote:


More importantly, if my crisps cost more than your biscuits on a per crisp/bisquit basis, are you required to report the difference as income? I mean you now have more value than you did before.


You might be able to report it is as a capital loss.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2015-06-10 06:15:31 UTC
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Removed a political statement.

Aww. I was just about to try and turn this into a debate on the pros and cons of socialism. I even brought my socialist retardant coat in expectation of the inevitable commie tear storm.

I'll just move along then. This evenings entertainment has been ruined.


It isn't fun fighting someone unarmed and no legs to stand on. You might as well debate against this.
Claud Tiberius
#85 - 2015-06-10 08:38:54 UTC
WhatYouDidThere wrote:
If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...

#nopoors

I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income.


The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra?

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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#86 - 2015-06-10 09:15:54 UTC
Claud Tiberius wrote:
WhatYouDidThere wrote:
If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...

#nopoors

I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income.


The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra?



Is it fair that Russians get monthly subscription so cheap compared to EU/USA?

I live in Finland and they just over the border, but I don´t feel violated anyway because I had to pay more.

So Norway, now it´s same with you and EU (including your dear neighbour Finland).
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#87 - 2015-06-10 09:52:19 UTC
Thats what you get for not being part of the EU/Euro community.

On the other hand, it is still cheaper than sinking billions into Greece and other failed states....

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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#88 - 2015-06-10 10:28:59 UTC
In norway everything is more expensive. Except internets. And the northern lights. Why last time i was there, my parking ticket was over 200 Norway Isks...

In other news Austrialians pay heaps more than other places for games. Steam charges different prices depending where you are. Video rentals are different in my country... etc.

I currently live in Switzerland. EVERYTHING except eve costs more. Just going to a movie cost 1.5 plex. A beer is about 0.8 plex.

And no a private company does not need to show you anything about why the price went up.

AKA the scientist.

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Thuul'Khalat
Phoenix Wing
#89 - 2015-06-10 15:06:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Thuul'Khalat
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
A beer is about 0.8 plex.



I wish I could buy beer with plex....


Also, I would be completely fine with changing to EUR (Hasn't the usual excuse from CCP for demanding the same price in USD and EUR despite exchange rate difference in the past been VAT btw?), but both changit it AND demanding we pay more than anyone else is just a big middle finger tbh.

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Master Kent'sslave
Alternative Royal Dynamics
RAZOR Alliance
#90 - 2015-06-10 16:32:12 UTC
Thuul'Khalat wrote:
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
A beer is about 0.8 plex.



I wish I could buy beer with plex....


Also, I would be completely fine with changing to EUR (Hasn't the usual excuse from CCP for demanding the same price in USD and EUR despite exchange rate difference in the past been VAT btw?), but both changit it AND demanding we pay more than anyone else is just a big middle finger tbh.



and lying about the reason behind it.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#91 - 2015-06-10 16:46:06 UTC
Claud Tiberius wrote:
WhatYouDidThere wrote:
If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...

#nopoors

I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income.


The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra?



It's an EVE subscription and you expect fair?
Master Kent'sslave
Alternative Royal Dynamics
RAZOR Alliance
#92 - 2015-06-10 16:51:59 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Claud Tiberius wrote:
WhatYouDidThere wrote:
If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...

#nopoors

I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income.


The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra?



It's an EVE subscription and you expect fair?



come on frosty you can do better than this... i'm especting more from ur poasting skillz
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2015-06-10 17:07:59 UTC
Master Kent'sslave wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Claud Tiberius wrote:
WhatYouDidThere wrote:
If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...

#nopoors

I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income.


The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra?



It's an EVE subscription and you expect fair?



come on frosty you can do better than this... i'm especting more from ur poasting skillz


I would first have to belive you when you say I have any kind of poster skill but at the end of the day, you will either pay up and keep playing or shut up and leave.

Well you can also grind ISK to get PLEX and keep playing. That is technically the best option as CCP keeps your sub and you don't pay the new charges.
Master Kent'sslave
Alternative Royal Dynamics
RAZOR Alliance
#94 - 2015-06-10 17:28:51 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Master Kent'sslave wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Claud Tiberius wrote:
WhatYouDidThere wrote:
If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...

#nopoors

I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income.


The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra?



It's an EVE subscription and you expect fair?



come on frosty you can do better than this... i'm especting more from ur poasting skillz


I would first have to belive you when you say I have any kind of poster skill but at the end of the day, you will either pay up and keep playing or shut up and leave.

Well you can also grind ISK to get PLEX and keep playing. That is technically the best option as CCP keeps your sub and you don't pay the new charges.



get it into youre f*****g head it is not about if its 4 euros or 50 euros its about CCP lying to their customers or refusal of providing documentationg on their VAT claims and yeah if it turns out that CCP is lying then yes i will unsub the rest of my accounts as i dont want to feed them with my mony if they lie to me
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#95 - 2015-06-10 17:50:25 UTC
Master Kent'sslave wrote:



get it into youre f*****g head it is not about if its 4 euros or 50 euros its about CCP lying to their customers or refusal of providing documentationg on their VAT claims and yeah if it turns out that CCP is lying then yes i will unsub the rest of my accounts as i dont want to feed them with my mony if they lie to me


Either you belive them or you unsub. I'm pretty sure they won't share their financial ploicies and agreement with various government over taxes and other regulation. For all I know, Canada could be next to be hit and theyre is **** all I could do about it except, as I suggested, pay up, grind or leave.

You expect a privately held company to share their VAT claims numbers with you?

I'm still waiting on those lotto numbers so I can pay the fine poster from earlier in the thread his well deserved prize of PLEXes...
Paranoid Loyd
#96 - 2015-06-10 17:52:26 UTC
It is clearly documented here (section 4.3), that "The supply of digital products, such as music or software via the Internet, is regarded as the supply of a service."

Maybe this just changed maybe it didn't, the fact of the matter is you do need to pay VAT and CCP had not been previously charging you VAT, someone either demanded it from them, or the lawyers noticed this oversight and made a change to policy to protect the company.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#97 - 2015-06-10 17:56:36 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
It is clearly documented here (section 4.3), that "The supply of digital products, such as music or software via the Internet, is regarded as the supply of a service."

Maybe this just changed maybe it didn't, the fact of the matter is you do need to pay VAT and CCP had not been previously charging you VAT, someone either demanded it from them, or the lawyers noticed this oversight and made a change to policy to protect the company.


Or they got audited... Who knows?
Paranoid Loyd
#98 - 2015-06-10 18:01:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
someone either demanded it from them


Or they got audited... Who knows?


Summarily inferred

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#99 - 2015-06-10 18:45:02 UTC
Sounds pretty weird CCP would not have noticed to include VAT before, if that were they intention and/or need...

brings to my mind... Is rest of the world next?
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#100 - 2015-06-10 18:55:55 UTC
just for perspective, eve's subscription rate hasn't been changed for a long time (so i've been told), just like any other product/company, it should have increased a loooooooooong time ago. P

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