EVE General Discussion

Hello everyone!

Yes I know this is probably a topic that has been beaten to death, but I've done a lot of research on it from other sources and have played a ton of different MMO's and I would just like to make the argument for Walking in Stations and how it could be of benefit to the game. If anyone has any objections feel free to post them, this is a discussion and I'm well aware other people won't share my point of view.

Without rambling on here goes:
1. Creation of content through different forms of player interaction.
This one's pretty obvious. By letting capsuleers roam around in the station they're docked at and interact face-to-face with others opens up an entire can of worms and endless possibilities. Here's a hypothetical situation:
You just docked up in an NPC station after an exciting roam in LS and decide to unwind. You step out of your CQ and walk through the hallways, witnessing other players making small talk or trading with each other in the hallway. You arrive at the local pub/bar/nightclub and order a drink for a few ISK, then sit down at a table watching The Scope from a nearby hanging holopanel. A player who happens to be bored sits down at your table and challenges you to a minigame that you can actually play installed in the table itself for either money (i.e. gambling) or for fun. He beats you, takes some of your ISK and tells you "good game". After that you relax watching the ships belonging to other players undocking and flying close to the station through the window beside you)
This is just an example scenario, but if WiS was ever implemented the sheer amount of new and fun minigames, content and ways to interact with new people you've never met would add a whole new sense of immersion to the game, which brings me to my next point...

2. An All new level of immersion
Being able to walk around and interact with New Eden with your toon would enable the Devs to inject and implement a ton of material from the EVE Lore into the game. I absolutely love the lore behind this game. Its so rich, vast and detailed. I think I read just about all of the EVE Chronicles. And yet there's a level of disconnect from the game itself. Imagine being in an NPC station and seeing Amarrian NPC scholars or priests walking down the halls, Gallente exotic dancers trying to entice you, Minmatar tribesman telling each other myths or Caladari business moguls arguing over how to run their corp. Being able to interact with NPCs like these (which serve to enrich the atmosphere a la Skyrim) and have them explain little tidbits about the empires or other facets of the game's rich sci-fi environment would really immerse those who are more inclined towards the RPing side of things. And yes, even though the NPCs may say the same things over and over again would get repetitive, but for new subs the new players could learn a lot about the history and stories behind New Eden.

3. New ways to manage Corps/Alliances
Imagine the sheer possibilities for corps and alliances WiS would bring. You corp office in station could have strategic planners, market share information on giant holopanels or terminals your toon could walk up to and manage the corp from. It would also provide a place where toons and friends from the same corp could gather together and hang out in a lounge or something, do minigames or simply stand around AFK surrounded by friends and wingmen.

These are just some of the ideas I came up with off the top of my head. If anyone wants to add more or make your arguments against WiS please feel free.

Hah this should go well!

I think it would work at cross purposes of the strength of the game, the spaceships. We should encourage players to leave stations and go into space, not promote spending hours in stations.

I mean it already happens as an avoidance technique as it is the one "safe" area in the game; but now it would be practically incentivized.

Now if I could smuggle guns in there and have dust style shoot outs until security ejects me I'd be on board. Shoot the player, clear the isk on the gaming table and make a run for my ship. Or have a station alert put out an APB and bounty out for such a player. You get capped in station you lose any implants and isk on hand. But already it's a different game, more GTA Online than EVE.

It is hard enough to execute a game when you have concrete focus and vision on what you want to be, cobbled on side features that add very little to that central vision are probably a bad idea. Fix space first before you worry about a whole new layer of Meta.

At the end of the day though I think it honestly would detract from more content creation than it would bring to the table.

It's very humbling and heartwarming to see a WiS thread on GD again. Here's to hoping It may prosper and many good features may be discussed and added when CCP finally releases the long due and praised by the big majority of EVE community important feature Walk In Station that will allow us to see face of enemy when docked in station.

Second Life is that way --------->

I think at some point it needs to happen. But having never done game development, or knowing CCP's structure I have no idea how feasible it is for them to even try to do it. Seems like spending a lot of time QAing art assets.

then again pretty much every game seems to have walking around as a feature so it can't be that hard can it?

This.

Some people are so unrealistically hopeful and utopian that no amount of failure ever dissuades them from something they think they want. Literally everything CCP has done that involved some form of walking has either failed (Incarna, WoD), been disappointing at best (DUST, even if it's true that it is profitable) or been a myth that's probably been discontinued with little fanfare (Legion, EVA exploration).

What has worked? Spaceships. Period.

The WiS crowd's solution to the above history of Walking around stuff from CCP? Pour even more money and time down the same drain that's failed to produce much for 12 years. Seriously, WTF guys?

let me play poker with isk, that i can get behind, that i would dock for

The result of a wandering mind.

Jeez, crazy amounts of backlash here lol

I'm not here to step on anybody's toes, just giving out some ideas that seemed good to me when I decided to write them. The forums are harsh I know, so no hard feelings on my end cause like I said earlier, everyone's got their own opinions on the matter and I knew beforehand what I was getting myself into when I decided to open this Pandora's Box of topics.

I find it really weird because the idea of WiS seems to be universally rejected on these forums but a huge amount of the people I talk to in-game actually support the concept of WiS.

Maybe I just happened to be talking to the right people and its all one big coincidence. I dunno.