EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

So looking at the two ships I am immediately blown away at the mistakes in their bonuses! Or what I only pray as mistakes.......


First, the Imp

So it gets the exact same bonuses as the succubus with the 7.5% tracking, 20% AB speed, and 150% Turret damage.

1) Extra bonuses, 5% per level range to disruptors and scrams........ 5% really? Pretty weak

2) The absolute joke! 15% reduction in Microwarpdrive signature radius penalty per level. Are you serious.... an mwd bonus on an ab ship with a bonus to abs....... noone fits mwds to these....... fix this now! (my suggestion - add the 20% shield resist bonus the fiend gets! and remove the mwd bonus)


Second the Fiend...

So again same bonuses as the phantasm with tracking, dps, and ab speed.

1) new bonus - 20 base shield resists (pretty awesome tbh)

2) 5% bonus to Warp Disruption Field Generator scramble range per level. Really? A unique ship that is supposed to use a field disruption module only really used to catch supers! This 150 bil ship will get raped by supers. This is the most moronic bonus for a HIC wannabe ever. Please change! (my suggestion lose the field disruption bonuses.... add the amarr recon cruiser bonus.... 7.5% tracking disruptor bonus per level and 10% bonus to drone damage and hp per level..... which means give it a 20m drone bay!)

also you lose your drones on these ships.... drones are actually pretty important. Please make these ships awsome!



Please look at these ships closer..... the dont do anymore dps than their faction brothers, and tbh it looks like you got super lazy and said "lets take the existing ships we already have and just add some useless bonuses".



One guys opinion who really really cares about the tourney and the ships. You did a great job in designing uniques ships in the past.... really dissapointing this year so far.

almost, nothing is that bad lol

Pretty sure these ships conceptually began as "Rise and Fozzie walked into a bar......







Twenty drinks in, they decided to design AT reward ships."

Hopefully, the buzz wears off soon and they take off the beer goggles, roll over, look at these hideous things and hope that no one ever finds out that they touched such an ugly creature.

Here's my 2 cents on these odd and badly designed bonuses:

Give the imp a higher ab bonus maybe 30-35% enough so its faster than a succubus but slower than a mwd ceptor(it's suposed to be a ceptor anyway right?)
Increase the warp disruptor range bonus to 10%
Replace the laughable mwd sig bonus for something like energy turret optimal,energy turret rate of fire,ab activation cost or a smaller resist bonus than the fiend say 10-15%.


As for the Fiend I doubt anyone is really excited about it's class or bonuses

Make the Fiend either a recon as has been a case with all previous pirate cruisers,a HAC,T1 BC or even logi .

Again as with the Imp increase the ab bonus 25% maybe even 30%.
For the recon choice give it a tracking disruption bonus on the recon skill bonus and an optimal for energy turret on the role bonus (maybe 30% optimal to still not make it project damage too much)
For the HAC choice move the 20% resist bonus curently to heavy assault cruiser skill(4% per lvl),or make it a rate of fire bonus)
For the T1 BC choice give it the ability to use 2 gang links(skirmish and siege maybe),dps on par or slightly higher than the navy harbinger and maybe a resist bonus.
For the logi choice similar bonuses for remote repairs as all T2 logi,an AB bonus as with all Sansha ships and maybe a tracking link bonus stronger than the curent on scimitar and oneiros.

And as a last thing make them new hulls because just slaping a new paint scheme on an existing hull shows lack of commitment.I asume the frigate will gain the second sansha hull which is used by NPCs but what for the cruiser?Will we see like last year just a new 'Gila' with a tiny logo on it's wing?

Imp is awful. The name fits it well. Just double its damage bonus and give it a 20% resistance bonus, and it will almost be as good as a daredevil.

Fiend should have either/or:
1) Can be RR'd with bubble/point up
2) Bubble acts as a SCRAM so ships inside cannot MWD or MJD.

+1 to nightmare skins, as long as you make them actually different than the regular skin (unlike the rattlesnake lol).

And please if the rattlesnake+nightmare become SKINs, please please let it still show up on dscan as "Victory Edition"!!!

o7

If you're that desperate for payout sell them and give each of your 12 pilots 75bn

Hi Mates,

I'm the one that put together the AT XIII prize ships this year. Poor Fozzie & Rise get blamed for everything...

Anyway, some quick points -

• These are not the final stats for the ships. Its an early pass without any play or balance testing - expect them to change. I'm interested in your feedback, so post (constructive) criticism or suggestions.
• The design goal of the AT ships is very different to that of any other 'normal' EVE Online space boat. Practicality is unimportant compared to 'theme' & 'coolness'.

The Imp is a Sansha Interceptor, so its bonuses are going to be coming from that heritage. Sure, warp disrupt range (outside of the standard ceptor bonuses) would be powerful as hell, but that's a Gallente or Mordus bonus, not a Sansha bonus.
Given its current stats/bonuses it will have a 59km Faction Point range while doing 3.8km/s+ with an afterburner (w' Bonuses/Overloaded).

The Fiend is a Sansha Hictor. Do we expect players to use the Fiend to tackle supers? Well some special snowflake probably will..but on the whole no. We expect you guys to figure out unique and interesting ways to use them. I'm sure moving with an AB at 2.2km/s+ while having 100k+ EHP and having a bubble up could be used for all sorts of shenanigans.


Cheers,
CCP Larrikin

Hey look guys theirs a bubble moving at 2.2km a sec that cant get repped let kill it with a single mwd hac thats faster...

Hics are used for 3 things CCP, Tackling supers, Gate camping and Rolling whs they are not usefull

Maybe Idk give us a useful race of ships cause when I say blood soaked in the title my pants got a little tight in the pants about a Blood Raider / Curse sexy love child.

Also when dafuq are we going to see another Gall ship as the tourney prize, plz give Serprentis / Gall ship with web and point bonus :P

That would be WOW... A ship fit of winning an AT something that can actually be used right in pvp.

Does anybody actually think these ships will be used as part of a fleet ? lol, they are just trophies, the bonus they have are meaningless because the ships are hanger queens. Any that are brought to a field will be insta primaried.

I wish their paint jobs had been more imaginative... White seems strange, vs Sansha's typically dark and gloomy theme. I would have liked to see some kind of crazy tribal tattoo looking markings.

As for the 'super' bonus they have over normal sansha ships, why not stick with the faction theme, look at other sansha's. How about the incursion enemies, look at the stats of them. Would be badass if these ships felt like you were flying a tattoo'd sansha incursion frigate or cruiser.