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[PRESS] Infiltration of Unkn. System; Identification of Hilen Tukoss
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Malcolm Faust
Cthulhu Expeditionary Force
#61 - 2015-06-05 22:52:46 UTC
It's always a sad day when a pilot finds himself without a clone.
I have spent months quietly searching Anoikis for any sign of him...
And then the Caldari removed his rights as a citizen. And his rights to a clone.


Not long after, Eifyr and Co., Tukoss' home away from home, was found witholding evidence about communication timing. Which sent Arek'jaalan scrambling to find how, and when, he would appear in K-space. Only to see one red letter day pass after another.

After that, I was pretty certain we wouldn't find him alive.

I as much as anyone would like to find him alive. But inventing possibilities as to how he could have made it, how he would have been prepared, how it's a blind put on by the Drifters to throw us off the scent, or how the Jove rescued him at the last moment, is only holding us back.

We need to move forward, and continue the work Hilen Tukoss started. Unraveling the mysteries of this universe.

As always, myself and the Soldiers of Cthulhu will support Arek'jaalan.

May Hilen Tukoss find peace.
Max Singularity
House Singularity
Sixth Empire
#62 - 2015-06-06 03:35:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Singularity
The 42 Temples of House Singularity shall ring for an hour heralding the loss of Dr. Tukoss.

To the living is say this...

Blessed be the Explorers, the Investigators, and especially to those that seek illumination into a dark universe.

From ancient texts I recite this...

"Do not go gently into the night...
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

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Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#63 - 2015-06-06 21:13:37 UTC
A congratulations to my former colleague, Makoto Priano, and her associates, is in order. Well done.


As for Tukoss, he got what he had coming to him. I don't think people realize the appearance of Drifters happened only after he, or as some theorize an impersonator of he, requested a donation of Jovian body parts to the Arek'Jaalan site in Eram. Had he been turned down by the Electus Matari forces that escorted the stolen Charon he was in, and captured by Ishukone Watch forces, perhaps this all could have been avoided. Your actions can have far-reaching consequences, capsuleers.

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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2015-06-07 00:36:22 UTC
Poor doctor!
I will pray for his soul!

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#65 - 2015-06-07 08:50:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Pilots; a brief update from our ongoing operations. The Redoubt exploratory group, in cooperation with the Caldari Independent Navy Reserve, has returned to the Redoubt hive. We successfully cleared the facility, and engaged not one but two Hikanta Tyrannos vessels. The second appeared to reinforce the site some twenty minutes after the first was destroyed.

We also have verified that Hilen Tukoss's corpse is now gone.

A more thorough report will be forthcoming.

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Demion Samenel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
#66 - 2015-06-07 12:34:47 UTC
This was under the command of Mrs.Priano an excellent executed operation, IKAME and associates have my respect.

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#67 - 2015-06-07 13:01:37 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
We also have verified that Hilen Tukoss's corpse is now gone.


Okay, now this, combined with the question of why the Drifters didn't collect it immediately, begins to sound as though someone showed us all that body on purpose.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#68 - 2015-06-07 15:49:59 UTC
Showed us the body on purpose, or simply hadn't gotten around to the corpse yet. The Vigilant Tyrannos may not engage in the degree of idolization that we do.

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#69 - 2015-06-07 16:17:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Makoto Priano wrote:
Showed us the body on purpose, or simply hadn't gotten around to the corpse yet. The Vigilant Tyrannos may not engage in the degree of idolization that we do.

Hadn't gotten around to it for ... how many months?

For at least part of which, they were actively collecting biomass?

It ... makes sense to try and not read too much into things, but do the Drifters really seem like procrastinators? If anything, since he was maybe the first capsuleer to fall into their hands, it seems like they'd have prioritized his recovery.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#70 - 2015-06-07 18:14:12 UTC
If the drifters destroyed his ship, then why not scooping his body, since obviously that body was not disintegrated ? Especially since they rushed on capsuleers bodies once out of Anoikis several months later... And continue to do so, if I am correct.

Either that, or Tukoss ship was actually destroyed by someone else... Possibly Sansha ? Or another capsuleer (especially a state capsuleer) ?

The implication of the second, as improbable as it sounds, is a bit worrying.
Gorion Wassenar
Stimulus
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#71 - 2015-06-07 19:47:20 UTC
Its certainly been an experience. As for why the body was "displayed" we'll have to do more research.

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2015-06-07 22:31:54 UTC
Another thought on the corpses (setting aside the potential idiocy of invading a Drifter home system and attacking them):

If the Drifters are working with the sleepers or are the sleepers then who or what destroyed the sleeper stasis pods and left the corpses there? Why did the Drifters not take them? If it wasn't the Drifters that cracked those tubes then who did? Also Hilen Tukoss mentioned the Drifters seemingly in a state of panic. What the hell would panic them?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#73 - 2015-06-08 00:09:31 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Hadn't gotten around to it for ... how many months?

For at least part of which, they were actively collecting biomass?

It ... makes sense to try and not read too much into things, but do the Drifters really seem like procrastinators? If anything, since he was maybe the first capsuleer to fall into their hands, it seems like they'd have prioritized his recovery.

A much more likely explanation is actually that they weren't collecting biomass (i.e. corpses of capsuleers) at the time, and by the time they got onto collecting biomass the body was space damaged so they ignored it. Remember when on the time line his podding took place, something like a full year ago, the corpse collection was relatively recent and not even the initial seeker appearances were documented as collecting corpses.

The same could be true of the sleeper structures, that they raided them for implants or other technology then later discovered the need for additional biomass but had already damaged the corpses by then.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#74 - 2015-06-08 01:51:39 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
A much more likely explanation is actually that they weren't collecting biomass (i.e. corpses of capsuleers) at the time, and by the time they got onto collecting biomass the body was space damaged so they ignored it. Remember when on the time line his podding took place, something like a full year ago, the corpse collection was relatively recent and not even the initial seeker appearances were documented as collecting corpses.

The same could be true of the sleeper structures, that they raided them for implants or other technology then later discovered the need for additional biomass but had already damaged the corpses by then.


That is possible. But in combination with the probably-fake Tukoss messages, calling for delivery of Jovian remains, and the more recent fragmented ones, which may also have been fake, or else written by something very interesting ...

... can we really say it is a likely coincidence that the Drifters left a very specific frozen corpse adrift in one of their strongholds for a year? That it never drifted further away? That they didn't so much as reel it in to inspect the implants and piloting rig?

I'd be interested in people's thoughts on the following assumption set, since it seems to me like the most intriguing of our set of options:

1. Assume that the Tukoss corpse is real, and died when it appears likely it died.

2. Assume that the damaged Tukoss messages are also real.
Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#75 - 2015-06-08 07:31:41 UTC
I would posit that, given the secure nature of where all those bodies are, the Drifters did not feel a need to harvest the doctor's body immediately.

Also, it is quite possible that, after collecting as much information that they have on us to date, that they considered the body as a means to entice us to go into their hive? I am getting the distinct impression that the Drifters, and/or whomever is behind them, is playing a wicked game of spider with us being the fly.

Still, congratulations on your operation, Makoto.

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Demion Samenel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
#76 - 2015-06-08 08:27:36 UTC
Steffanie Saissore wrote:
I would posit that, given the secure nature of where all those bodies are, the Drifters did not feel a need to harvest the doctor's body immediately.

Also, it is quite possible that, after collecting as much information that they have on us to date, that they considered the body as a means to entice us to go into their hive? I am getting the distinct impression that the Drifters, and/or whomever is behind them, is playing a wicked game of spider with us being the fly.

Still, congratulations on your operation, Makoto.


Of what has been observed, why should the body of Tukoss be anything other than a body. So yes they perhaps did not feel they had to harvest it straight away or just did not care. It seems it was left in space after it was destroyed until more activity increased in the area and his corpse was discovered by IKAME operations. If activity increased in these "Hives" it stands to reason that the areas was cleared out and his body like many others has been collected.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#77 - 2015-06-08 13:24:34 UTC
Why you assume the Drifter took his body were you minitoring the site all the time...
From what i know your expedition wasn't the only one visiting the site.

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Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#78 - 2015-06-08 13:28:13 UTC
I have had another thought, based on the theory that some think that a few of Tukoss's broadcasts were made by an impostor.

Now, in the last broadcast from Tukoss, we saw a massive fleet of Drifter vessels, yet there was no sign of this fleet in the hive at any point.

What if there is not a massive fleet of Drifters? This does not diminish the danger they pose to the Empires or other groups. The reason I ask this question is, in preparing for a strike, it would aid a smaller military force to appear to be far larger than they really are and make overt positioning so that their opponent(s) send their defenses to the site of the supposed battle; meanwhile, the enemy's smaller force slips behind the defenders and strikes their true target.

We know that the Drifter activity has been particular concentrated around Amarr space lately, based on other reports from various capsuleers. Is that where they are going to strike (this assumes that they plan to launch and offensive against someone...and with their activities, it seems likely). Yet, I wonder if all of this is not a ruse to have the Amarr empire dedicate its fleets to one location so that the Drifters might strike a different location?

Unfortunately, without knowing more about what drives these beings, it will be hard to predict their actual goal(s) and therefore difficult to determine if they are executing an elaborate feint or they will in fact launch an offensive within Amarr.

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Demion Samenel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
#79 - 2015-06-08 13:43:46 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Why you assume the Drifter took his body were you minitoring the site all the time...
From what i know your expedition wasn't the only one visiting the site.


Lack of media coverage of the find, if his corpse would have been snatched by capsuleers we would have heard about it. And yes that is true other capsuleers have visited the site, but hardly enough to keep an eye on them at any current time.

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Demion Samenel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
#80 - 2015-06-08 13:58:01 UTC
Steffanie Saissore wrote:
I have had another thought, based on the theory that some think that a few of Tukoss's broadcasts were made by an impostor.

Now, in the last broadcast from Tukoss, we saw a massive fleet of Drifter vessels, yet there was no sign of this fleet in the hive at any point.

What if there is not a massive fleet of Drifters? This does not diminish the danger they pose to the Empires or other groups. The reason I ask this question is, in preparing for a strike, it would aid a smaller military force to appear to be far larger than they really are and make overt positioning so that their opponent(s) send their defenses to the site of the supposed battle; meanwhile, the enemy's smaller force slips behind the defenders and strikes their true target.

We know that the Drifter activity has been particular concentrated around Amarr space lately, based on other reports from various capsuleers. Is that where they are going to strike (this assumes that they plan to launch and offensive against someone...and with their activities, it seems likely). Yet, I wonder if all of this is not a ruse to have the Amarr empire dedicate its fleets to one location so that the Drifters might strike a different location?

Unfortunately, without knowing more about what drives these beings, it will be hard to predict their actual goal(s) and therefore difficult to determine if they are executing an elaborate feint or they will in fact launch an offensive within Amarr.



It seems to be a popular theory yes, that its an imposter. But I leave that to the number pushers, Im more interested of the massive drifter fleet.

The shattered systems seems vast so it might be as well it has not yet been discovered, and the massive Drifters fleet have moved on after an initial fleet movement. As of the tactics, they do possess technology we dont understand so there might be tactics we cant foresee.

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