Player Features and Ideas Discussion

- the ISIS window can teach newer players what the new icons are for ship class.
- new icons would not take up loads of space on the client, because your talking about a couple dozen small thumbnail images that are just a few pixels big.
- yes we can all get used to the new icons, but why do older players have to be forced into a relearning process?

customization is a good thing, and old players can still teach the new players how to set up their overviews and even share presets with, overview sharing, to teach them. Having a UI that can be more customizable to the individual is better for everyone. New players are going to have a steep learning curve coming into the game, but CCP is addressing new player retention on other fronts. i would argue that what the icons look like have no bearing on how new players learn the game whatsoever. New players just starting eve have no idea what icons even are and may not know what ship types and class are. Having access to better tutelage and easy access to info about the game mechanics is what really matters for newer players.

also bump :3

i was just creating some own icons as suggestion in photoshop when i've seen this thread. i totally agree with op and think it's the best idea regarding this icon discussion.

I agree with everything.

Why try to fix what is not even broken?

I Agree!

I was pulled here from https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5796418# buy the poster of this Topic. Similar Ideas they should be considered together as one, instead of separate!

You have my Support if you add in the NEX store purchases and somewhat incorporate my other ideas, if you see them, such as a bunch of sass!

Fully agree with topicstarter.
Just add a one small button "Use old-school icons" that would be perfect for us.

i can provide an example of a change that ccp went back on...

remember the vagabond back when inferno was released? CCP took the fins away, then everybody complained about it, and eventually CCP gave the vaga its fins back. :P

this thread also isnt a gripe thread on the new icons. if you would have read the original post in its entirety, i stated i thought the new icons and UI changes were a "novel idea". This thread just a proposed idea to give players more choices over their UI.

YEAH!!!!! +11111111111111111

I have a complaint about whoever is in charge of giving the OK to the development teams on their ideas. I feel like this individual has no concept of quality control and simply allows any idea through because they don't want to hurt the feelings of the employee who worked on it. For example, most of the UI updates in recent history have been obvious downgrades with a lot of people complaining they wanted the old one back, or at least an option to revert to an older version of the UI. Would a customizable UI really be so hard to achieve? The most recent tragedy that was allowed to go live was the new icon pack, I want to use the old icon pack; I am accustomed and familiar with it, it makes sense.... this new pack is almost spastic in its arrangement and has no logical pattern, it makes the game harder to play. People will argue that this is only a small fraction of the population complaining about these UI/Cosmetic changes with no option to revert to previous versions, however, anyone with half a brain knows CCP have NEVER cared about the player bases opinion on these patches and a majority of people who might complain simply don't because they know its 100% a waste of time. In the 10+ years i've logged into EvE i've only seen a select few instances where CCP actually reverted a change made in a patch because its what the players wanted, this is a serious problem.

tl;dr

Give players the option to use new icons or old icons, is this really so hard? And continue to give players options regarding COSMETIC patches that have no effect on anything and the use of which should be dependant on the players preference, not the preference of the development team.

http://strawpoll.me/4563214

These new icons are terrible and CCP should be ashamed.

everyone who plays this dingus game has the old icons burned into they're brains, regardless of how horrible and inefficient they were

if it aint broken dont fix it ccp, my brain does not like these new icons