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Issue with new Overview Icons
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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-06-03 03:52:06 UTC
This is just a little complaint, but enough of a complaint.

Yes, there is a difference in icon from one ship to another, when speaking of size, but it's not all that well defined.

Example.

Difference from cruiser to battlecruiser is a line underneath the primary icon.
This line can be a little... Hard to notice at a glance.

You have to pay attention.


It's not that big of an issue because it's better than what we had before, but if the point is being able to identify one class from another, I would like it to be a bit more distinct.



Looking at the icons in ISIS, this is only a concern for frig vs destroyer and cruiser vs BC.


An idea of what they can do is an industrial compared to a freighter. They're similar, but can be easily distinguished from each other.
Iain Cariaba
#2 - 2015-06-03 15:14:02 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
You have to pay attention.

Well, look at that. You came up with the solution all on your own.

Good job, you're learning.

/thread
Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-06-03 17:01:10 UTC
So what exactly are you proposing?
There is already a feedback thread of oceanic tears for the new icons.

This is F & I.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2015-06-03 18:20:17 UTC
This is Features and Ideas, honey.

Issues and complaints go in Issues and Salvation ->

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This is the law of ship progression!

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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-06-05 14:48:32 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
This is Features and Ideas, honey.

Issues and complaints go in Issues and Salvation ->



Problem is, I'm suggesting a change in order to suit the issue.

Hence it being in F&I


Lain Cariaba wrote:

Well, look at that. You came up with the solution all on your own.

Good job, you're learning.

/thread


I have astigmatism, the fine line under the icons on destroyers and BCs is difficult to make out.
So when I say paying attention, I mean leaning in close to my screen, or putting my cursor over the icon until it tells me what type of ship it is.

This puts me at a bit of a disadvantage compared to other players without my astigmatism.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#6 - 2015-06-05 15:10:42 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:


I have astigmatism, the fine line under the icons on destroyers and BCs is difficult to make out.
So when I say paying attention, I mean leaning in close to my screen, or putting my cursor over the icon until it tells me what type of ship it is.

This puts me at a bit of a disadvantage compared to other players without my astigmatism.


the slightly bigger square was easier?

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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-06-05 15:20:59 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:


I have astigmatism, the fine line under the icons on destroyers and BCs is difficult to make out.
So when I say paying attention, I mean leaning in close to my screen, or putting my cursor over the icon until it tells me what type of ship it is.

This puts me at a bit of a disadvantage compared to other players without my astigmatism.


the slightly bigger square was easier?



No... but I never said it was.
These are the new icons, so while CCP is still working on them, I'd like to put in my suggestion.

The old icons were here when I started and no chance of them being modified.
Dade Corban
Calamitous-Intent
#8 - 2015-06-06 01:15:02 UTC
New over and interface was ****.

There was sufficient feedback from test server to **** can the whole thing.

Was packaged and deployed anyway.

Please revert.

Everything looks like a wreck @ 2500 m/s
Azarah Aubaris
The Irukandji
#9 - 2015-06-06 03:25:02 UTC
there is a post proposing the addition of customizable icons

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=427798&find=unread
Iain Cariaba
#10 - 2015-06-06 16:55:21 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:


I have astigmatism, the fine line under the icons on destroyers and BCs is difficult to make out.
So when I say paying attention, I mean leaning in close to my screen, or putting my cursor over the icon until it tells me what type of ship it is.

This puts me at a bit of a disadvantage compared to other players without my astigmatism.


the slightly bigger square was easier?



No... but I never said it was.
These are the new icons, so while CCP is still working on them, I'd like to put in my suggestion.

The old icons were here when I started and no chance of them being modified.

I, also, have astigmatism. I also play at 90% UI scaling in fixed window mode at 2560x1600 resolution. I've gone though the hassle of experimenting with monitor placement so that, wearing my glasses, I can see and read a good 95% of everything going on in EvE, with the 5% being a few things I need to lean towards the monitor to see. Now, if you have regular astigmatism and still have difficulties, perhaps it's time to get your prescription updated for your glasses. I was having problems a few years ago with my eyesight, specially around computers, and it turned out that my glasses were actually the problem.

Now that I've used the icons in a real fight, I like that I get more information out of them than the old boxes. Thanks Darkness and friends for sacrificing all those capitals just so I could learn how the new icons pack can benefit me. It's nice and easy to tell a frigate from a destroyer, and a cruiser from a battlecruiser. Carriers are now a different icon from dreads, which makes for easy identification in battle.
Furionthion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-06-07 01:02:11 UTC
What a tool!


Iain Cariaba wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
You have to pay attention.

Well, look at that. You came up with the solution all on your own.

Good job, you're learning.

/thread
Rarnak Ki
Twilight Hour Industries
Barely-Legal
#12 - 2015-06-07 01:34:51 UTC
The problem is mainly being able to quickly differentiate between ships and non-ships. When I jump into a system now I have to look at all the icons and even the types just to figure out if there are ships on the gate or not. That is silly. I now have an overview setting that is just ships and nothing else because it is too difficult to tell the difference.

I like that the icons differentiate between ship classes but they are far too similar to the icons for non-ship objects in space. It should be instantly clear to me whether there are ships on grid or not. The previous square icons did this well. Maybe shade the ship icons? Have them a certain color? Something instantly visible that can be applied to ALL ship icons so as to differentiate them from non-ship icons.
HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-06-07 01:50:19 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:


I have astigmatism, the fine line under the icons on destroyers and BCs is difficult to make out.
So when I say paying attention, I mean leaning in close to my screen, or putting my cursor over the icon until it tells me what type of ship it is.

This puts me at a bit of a disadvantage compared to other players without my astigmatism.


the slightly bigger square was easier?



No... but I never said it was.
These are the new icons, so while CCP is still working on them, I'd like to put in my suggestion.

The old icons were here when I started and no chance of them being modified.

I, also, have astigmatism. I also play at 90% UI scaling in fixed window mode at 2560x1600 resolution. I've gone though the hassle of experimenting with monitor placement so that, wearing my glasses, I can see and read a good 95% of everything going on in EvE, with the 5% being a few things I need to lean towards the monitor to see. Now, if you have regular astigmatism and still have difficulties, perhaps it's time to get your prescription updated for your glasses. I was having problems a few years ago with my eyesight, specially around computers, and it turned out that my glasses were actually the problem.

Now that I've used the icons in a real fight, I like that I get more information out of them than the old boxes. Thanks Darkness and friends for sacrificing all those capitals just so I could learn how the new icons pack can benefit me. It's nice and easy to tell a frigate from a destroyer, and a cruiser from a battlecruiser. Carriers are now a different icon from dreads, which makes for easy identification in battle.


My specific issue with astigmatism is that letters and/or icon and/or whatever else has a tendency to disappear when they are too close together.

That's probably my biggest issue. The underline on destroyer and BC are too close to the icon, so it blends together. I have to either lean in, or allow my eyes to adjust.
Aran Hotchkiss
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-06-07 03:37:59 UTC
Specia1 K wrote:
So what exactly are you proposing?
There is already a feedback thread of oceanic tears for the new icons.

This is F & I.


You saying there's a shittone of tears or that people from Oceania have bad eyesight?

You should have enough control over your herd of cats to make them understand. If they constantly make misstakes, get better cats.