EVE General Discussion

Join Brave Newbies. No problem at all when players only play irregularly.

ok.but still doesn't make sense when the current system allows for a 2 day dec if the aggressor choses so. or maybe i'm just not getting why you think it would be better. or is it not that it's better just more options ?

Yeah I guess it is just a pricing issue, a lot of people don't PVP in expensive ships, at 50 mil you could already be down more than anyone intends to put on the battlefield.

Hi, I'm Iphi, and I'm in CAS.

I joined EVE at the behest of a good friend of mine. He is in a player corp. He threw isk at me and told me to read the tutorials and have a good time learning how to play -- he owns an orca and an alt with boost skills so he gave me a small fleet to mine in and earn isk while in highsec -- he also introduced me to another friend who is a manager/leader/recruiter in his player corp who has told me all about the exciting life I could lead in null.

Player Corp Manager Friend loves to glorify how much isk I can make in his nullsec corp by afk mining while my alt sits on their gate with several other corpies stomping neutrals who stray into system. He has also been known to complain about members who don't show up at specific times to do specific corp-mandated things -- mining operations to fit US, EU, AU timezones, where all the yield + all the rat bounties go 100% to the corp, for example -- and I realise what it sounds like.

I have a real world job that dictates my playing time. I'm required to follow rules at this job, and I'm okay with that because that's part of what a job means. I give them 42-45 hours of my time every week and do what they tell me to do when they want me to do it and I get paid for it.

Being in a player corp with these types of activities sounds an awful lot like my job. And said friends' corp's system is in the backend of some backwater null system where they rent space from their alliance, so it continues to sound like my job as I'd be in the same seat day after day, week after week, doing nothing but pulling in money and following a boss's command.

I have a damn job. Said job earns me money for siting in the same damn seat day after day for doing what my boss tells me to. When a game feels like a job, I stop playing.

I'm in CAS, like I said, and I quite like it here. In CAS I have access to a lot of friendly people, noobs and veterans alike, to chat with when I'm feeling sociable. These people won't complain if I don't do so for days at a time. I also have access to mission fleets, incursion fleets, mining fleets, and null-sec roaming fleets, should I choose to/have the ability to join in. Not only that, but when I have questions, I can find an answer. Plus, if I show off my new awesome ship that I just fitted with modules that I recently finished training for, my corpmates won't wait for me to undock so they can blow it to pieces (another friend recently had that lovely experience within his first day of joining his first corp back in EVE after years away).

I'm not sure that being in a player-run corp in null-sec following sovereignty rules is going to provide me the kind of experience I want and currently can get out of CAS. However, I have a feeling that joining a player corp is an inevitability if only because I still like playing with my friends and if they continue to be active I may need to join up just to continue playing with them. I'm mostly a carebear, I like blowing things up but I'm more of a honourable-battlefield pvper -- the kind who will fight you in a group no-holds barred, with everyone all out balls to the wall -- but I've never been any good at 1v1, and I'm certainly not up for 1vtrololol.

TL;DR: Player corps too often sound like work when I already have a job. My NPC corp provides a large part of the EVE experience and I'm having lots of fun this way. Might change in future, might not.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the stupidity of that reply. Possibly the dumbest comment I've seen in the forum.

Good thing you went for the low effort option in your response. The preemptive smacktalk doesn't lend itself very well to a discussion.

Had a nice chat with a member of CAS the other morning.
She and many others are very happy with that corp for reasons already covered in depth earlier. I get that. I also understand the need/desire to have a place for hauler/scout/indy alts to live without being under the gun, especially when the main character happens to live in a 'target rich environment'.
There are plenty of reasons for living in one of these corps that are plenty valid.

Fear of war as a driving motivator for staying in them is one that kind of saddens me though. Don't get me wrong, I generally have plenty of targets to chase after (so many that I often find myself befuddled as to whom to pursue), so I'm not really looking for more.
No, what bothers me is this pervasive notion that wars are horrible things that ruin the game, make it unplayable, drive people away etc... and get branded with the word 'Grief'. I loathe that word, as we're not playing on a public Minecraft server here. We all know what EVE is, or at least we should. We signed up for this. Most of us LOVE this. It's fun because it's kind of scary, kind of like a roller coaster. Facing that fear and conquering it is part of the joy of the game, and because of this skewed perspective many are preemptively robbing themselves of that.
Hiding under the bunk and wrapping yourself in foam isn't going to enhance the game for you or anyone else.
*shrug*

Laughing would be one response to what I said. I don't know if it would be the "right" response. Instead of laughing, though, you made a cryptic and vitriolic post in an internet spaceships forum. I wonder . . . why so serious?

Low Sec, Null Sec , Wormhole space, is all by definition more dangerous than High Sec, if you are going there to fight it is a good idea to have a plan to replace your ship when you lose it. If you are going there to have a look around because you have not been there before then the same is even more so true. If you are part of alliance that dominates the territory so much that it is no longer dangerous for you that doesn't change the fact that it's natural state is more dangerous and probably still is for people that are not part of that alliance.

Post like these get so stupid sometimes. Whats your point? There are plenty of people in player corps. If there aren't enough for you to get your jollies, too bad.