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Satan's Spawn
Satan's Enterprises
#41 - 2015-06-05 08:50:46 UTC
SpaceyJoe Mentat wrote:
[quote=Jenn aSide]

Directly after character creation it should ask "Do you sandbox? Or would you like a ticket to the theme-park?



that ^^ .... very very true.
Satan's Spawn
Satan's Enterprises
#42 - 2015-06-05 08:52:11 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Let me give a nickel's worth of free advice to anyone in the same boat as the OP.


  1. PvP is hilariously entertaining, even when you lose.
  2. If you have never PvP'd before, find an active PvP corporation (RvB for example) and join them. You won't even have to leave highsec to find fights. You'll also be exposed to the most important tanking style in the game: the fleet mate tank. If you like classes, take an Agony PvP Basic class.
  3. Spend your time in your PvP corp making friends and learning how to actually fly for PvP.
  4. PvP does not have to be expensive That bears repeating, so: PvP DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXPENSIVE!!! I spend about 1 weekend a month funding my entire month's worth of PvP. Flying mostly T1 frigates is fun, requires a decent amount of skill. and fast tackle is never turned away from a roaming small gang. T2 frigates are not much more expensive in total. Even some of the pirate frigates are relatively inexpensive.
  5. Finally, and most importantly, go out and get blown up. After the fifth or sixth time, it stops being painful and you start learning from your mistakes.


Just wish it lasted longer than: [jump][screen clears][ohshi"pop"]
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#43 - 2015-06-05 10:55:58 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You are playing as a single player in a multiplayer game. Change that and you will have fun.

Always believe this guy. No. Really.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#44 - 2015-06-05 11:29:23 UTC
FACTION WARFARE!

for a couple of days now the filthy squids are attacking one of GalMil player corp home system of Nisuwa .

you can check from killboards of the glorious exlosions and pewpew happening in there.

don't miss out on the fun. thank you.

Just Add Water
Amarrchecko
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2015-06-05 11:37:11 UTC
Deimos UK wrote:
I fitted a Catalyst and managed to find an unsuspecting Procurer who I proceeded to Gank.


Reading this makes me wonder if anything you said was true.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#46 - 2015-06-05 12:33:02 UTC
Hir Miriel wrote:


The glib, mindless response is to say "make friends", "join a guild" etc.

But that won't solve one of the big problems with EVE.

Which is its asymmetry when it comes to PvP design. That is, zergs win, soloers lose. Only natural, everyone wants to win, and being in the biggest group assures that.

There is no place you can do 1 v 1 PvP, and there is no way to log in for 30 mins and just do a bit of PvP.

Which means for players that are mainly solo and just want to play for a lunch break battle, for example, then EVE is not the game for them.

Doesn't matter how many friends they make or corps they join.

This also becomes problematic for players that find this game by themselves and want to explore the game options that way. After a certain point EVE becomes a zergfest.

What might help is some NPC stations with Virtual Reality Arenas where players can queue and battle in in-game virtualities. A little Inceptionist.

Man, I must be bored posting on these forums again. :) Anyhow that's my thinking on how to help your lost soul.


When you see a post like this, realize that what you are getting is not advice about reality, it's really just a poster posting in a way that protects their own egos against the pain of their own failures and misconceptions. The above post is a very good example, as that poster believes you can't log in to EVE online and have 30 minutes of fun. I must be doing faction warfare completely wrong then.

I posted 2 videos of in a previous post of people Solo PVPing (one with a battleship, it's supposed to be impossible to solo pvp with battleships, Don't Big Miker know that???). The people claiming that EVE has some kind of design flaw are wrong. What EVE does that many other games don't do is require a "solo" player to be actually GOOD AT THE GAME if they want kills. It doesn't just let you roll out there and pwn people with a "noob tube".

EVE is a lot like real life in that one major skill one needs to develop is "who do i listen to, and who do I ignore". First on any ignore list should be "that's impossible" people, mainly because those people haven't even tried the thing they are claiming you can't do.
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#47 - 2015-06-05 13:48:05 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Can you be more objective? My response has nothing to do with failures or excuses. The OP shouldn't feel bad if he is bored with the game. I've lived out in null and it is the same as it is in in high sec. You just have more EVE stuff like cynos, bubbles, cap ships, etc... LS and NS is the same as high sec, they just have little gimmicks. If the OP doesn't like the game, peer pressure isn't going to make him stay.



OP shouldn't feel bad for not knowing what to do. Congratulations for being right about something for the very first time on these forums.

You, on the other hand, should feel bad for being a complete f***tard and making up nonsense and spreading it around like this. You blame the game design for everything that you don't know how to do. At least the OP is smart enough to ask for some guidance. You should stop posting and learn something from this guy.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#48 - 2015-06-05 14:19:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Glathull wrote:
You blame the game design for everything that you don't know how to do.


OMG Glathull, I didn't realize who that poster was, he's the very same "Don't train Battleships" guy. I was thinking about just that post when I posted my 1st reply in this thread, but I never made the connection till I saw your post.

The bad thing is that there are lots of people who don't know better who listen to these kinds of people. 8 years ago i was almost one of them as I joined a mission running corp and was fed all kinds of false information about the game (nice people, but totally misguided, I missed out on a whole lot of fun in my 1st months because I didn't know better than to listen to them).

A bit off topic but i just find it ironic that the type of carebear naysayers tend to claim it's 'bad people' that shoo people out of the game, when in fact it's their actions and misinformation (IE "the game design is against you so don't even bother trying") that probably has a worse effect on retention than the actions of those 'bad people' which probably contributes positively to player retention.
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#49 - 2015-06-05 14:22:39 UTC
Yeah, he's that guy, Jenn. And a few other threads that were all equally awful.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Anuri Suaraj
The Cylar Foundation
#50 - 2015-06-05 18:24:44 UTC
Deimos UK wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You are playing as a single player in a multiplayer game. Change that and you will have fun.



I appreciate the comment and it makes perfect sense.

However, all I get is people trying to recruit me in to their corp as I have three subs and relocate my stuff to Null Sec.

Someone in help channel suggested I become a pirate and try "ganking" / evading Concorde etc. I fitted a Catalyst and managed to find an unsuspecting Procurer who I proceeded to Gank. I felt instantly bad, apologised in local and sent him the ISK to cover the loss (and then some!). I now mine with the guy and made a friend so I know that piracy or ganking is not for me.

Am I wrong, or is Eve a compilation of Gate Camps? this is all I have seen... This isn't meant as a provocative comment its a simple question as if this is the case then it restricts the "multiplayer" function you suggest I go for




I don't appreciate the comment and no it doesn't make sense...

I am really tired of people that don't understand the concept of an MMO but insist on maintain their tarded "EVE is an MMO stupid...you must play with friends..." mantra.

Please read this carefully dweebs:

Multiplayer implies that multiple players can play the game simultaneously...

Massive Multiplayer implies that a massive amount of multiple players can share the same game environment.

NEITHER implies that one actually needs to team up with other players or else "the game will suck for you."

An MMO is not suppose to suck whether you play it solo or in a group of people.

Please understand that already...and pipe down.
Deimos UK
Doomheim
#51 - 2015-06-05 19:15:37 UTC
Amarrchecko wrote:
Deimos UK wrote:
I fitted a Catalyst and managed to find an unsuspecting Procurer who I proceeded to Gank.


Reading this makes me wonder if anything you said was true.



How is this relevant at all? Did you read the sentence below in which I said I apologized in local and reimbursed the ISK cost? If you have something a little more objective to say...
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#52 - 2015-06-05 19:25:23 UTC
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
Deimos UK wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You are playing as a single player in a multiplayer game. Change that and you will have fun.



I appreciate the comment and it makes perfect sense.

However, all I get is people trying to recruit me in to their corp as I have three subs and relocate my stuff to Null Sec.

Someone in help channel suggested I become a pirate and try "ganking" / evading Concorde etc. I fitted a Catalyst and managed to find an unsuspecting Procurer who I proceeded to Gank. I felt instantly bad, apologised in local and sent him the ISK to cover the loss (and then some!). I now mine with the guy and made a friend so I know that piracy or ganking is not for me.

Am I wrong, or is Eve a compilation of Gate Camps? this is all I have seen... This isn't meant as a provocative comment its a simple question as if this is the case then it restricts the "multiplayer" function you suggest I go for




I don't appreciate the comment and no it doesn't make sense...

I am really tired of people that don't understand the concept of an MMO but insist on maintain their tarded "EVE is an MMO stupid...you must play with friends..." mantra.

Please read this carefully dweebs:

Multiplayer implies that multiple players can play the game simultaneously...

Massive Multiplayer implies that a massive amount of multiple players can share the same game environment.

NEITHER implies that one actually needs to team up with other players or else "the game will suck for you."

An MMO is not suppose to suck whether you play it solo or in a group of people.

Please understand that already...and pipe down.





I smell Theme park lover somewhere. *sniff sniff*, yep, themparker near by. Sry, but we don't take kindly to ur kind round yehr.

EVE is the kind of 'social sandbox' game that allows one to play solo but is designed to reward people for cooperating. Playing solo is fine so long as you accept that you are limiting your own experience. Sorry if you don't like that.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#53 - 2015-06-05 20:49:25 UTC
12 years of eve... here is how i have not gotten bored (sept now but thats another story) in order:

2004: mined (got me hooked on eve)

2004: (made a corp with 2 real life buddies, corp failed by the end of 04)

2005: Joined CLS to learn how to run a corp..

2005: Became an EVE Radio DJ

2005: Left CLS Shortly after the formation of ASendent Frontiier and made my current corp...

2006: joined a group of player sin the Derelik Region and formed the anti pirate DJTF

2006: Formed my First alliance with members of DJTF, Brotherhood(space)(space)Of(space)(space)Steel was formed.

2006: got married and took 2 month off of eve for a honeymoon

2006: came back and rebuilt my corp and alliance (hard work.. little pay, my eve play style)

2006: Got involved in the UK/CVA War in providence

2007: Moved to Wicked Creek at the Request of IAC

2007: Started the 49-u invation of FiX space

2007: Failed to invade FiX space

2007/maybe 2008: Bought Z-UZZN from Razor following the fall of FiX, Became IAC pets.

2008: got our assed handed to us by BoB, as well as infighting, alliance was a confederation and collapsed under its own weight

2009: regourped in empire.. getting bored

2009: Apocarypto and Wormholes announced, recruited like mad

2009: Became one of the first wormhole corps (i don;t rememebr if i was in right after DT or not, so i don;t claim to be the first)

2009: Formed second alliance, The Last Brigade, a wormhole alliance

2010: got invited by Vangaurd. Alliance to live in outter ring (odd that i know people in high places at times...)

2010: One of my directors took a system in could ring the day dominion dropped... because a EXE renter.

2010: Had issues in cloud ring, and the Goon ivasion scared members. Found out about Atlas. Renting system in WC and moved.

2010: During the fall of atlas, got scammed out of 25b for 3 stations and 2 systems, that same week, i lost a 25b isk nyx, and an alliance mate who came to my escue lost his caldari mom (i can never spell it)

2011: 1 year break to have my son (wife had him)

2011: read all about the summer of range... was not interested in returning

2012: Friend told me of IAC being reborn... i rejoined eve and joined IAC

2012: IAC invaded Geminite

2012: IAC collapses (heh)

2012: recruited

2013: Life issues, stopped recruting, moved to a wh to make money.. (start bord phase)

2013: lost a wh, moved to another. contenuie bored pahse

2014: Death in the family irl and life got a bit.. mm turned upside down.

2014: life issues. lost wh moved to another

2015: life issues, still in wh

The point is, besides the last few years (life issues, don;t ask) the thing that kept me playing was other people.

You honestly need to join a corp. You made a complaint about your stuff.. well, liquiadte and move. Or ignore your stuff. I have crap on 4 accounts spread ALL over eve. It happens. If you don;t WANT to do that, then make a corp and recruit. you will quickly get more enjoyment out of eve if you play with others on a normal basis. Hell even if all you do is shoot the **** on team speak as you mine, it makes a HUGE difference.

Otherwise it doenst matter what you do, you will become bored. just like real life, unless you a hermit, you need companions.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#54 - 2015-06-05 20:55:25 UTC
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
Deimos UK wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You are playing as a single player in a multiplayer game. Change that and you will have fun.



I appreciate the comment and it makes perfect sense.

However, all I get is people trying to recruit me in to their corp as I have three subs and relocate my stuff to Null Sec.

Someone in help channel suggested I become a pirate and try "ganking" / evading Concorde etc. I fitted a Catalyst and managed to find an unsuspecting Procurer who I proceeded to Gank. I felt instantly bad, apologised in local and sent him the ISK to cover the loss (and then some!). I now mine with the guy and made a friend so I know that piracy or ganking is not for me.

Am I wrong, or is Eve a compilation of Gate Camps? this is all I have seen... This isn't meant as a provocative comment its a simple question as if this is the case then it restricts the "multiplayer" function you suggest I go for




I don't appreciate the comment and no it doesn't make sense...

I am really tired of people that don't understand the concept of an MMO but insist on maintain their tarded "EVE is an MMO stupid...you must play with friends..." mantra.

Please read this carefully dweebs:

Multiplayer implies that multiple players can play the game simultaneously...

Massive Multiplayer implies that a massive amount of multiple players can share the same game environment.

NEITHER implies that one actually needs to team up with other players or else "the game will suck for you."

An MMO is not suppose to suck whether you play it solo or in a group of people.

Please understand that already...and pipe down.






Unfortunately for you, it is you who are wrong. Eve is not a themepark mmo. EVE is a social simulator. The fun you think you are having now solo, will be 10000000 times better if you join the right corp and play with people. I have done both solo, group, and i do everything while my buddies have fun, play. The moment i add more then myself my satisfaction and enjoyment of eve goes up 100 fold. The more people i add to my corp, the more fun I have. This is not only personal experence, but also 12 years of experence with dealing with eve players. Everyone of them will tell you the same, if you join a group you will have MORE fun then solo.

But hey, maybe you are the exception. CCP's own metrics disagree. Most solo players leave after 3 months. And if that player joins a corp they usually stay 2+ years. This is ccp's own record. Its not a knock on solo play, its just a fact that eve is NOT a solo game.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#55 - 2015-06-05 20:59:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Jenn aSide wrote:


I smell Theme park lover somewhere. *sniff sniff*, yep, themparker near by. Sry, but we don't take kindly to ur kind round yehr.

EVE is the kind of 'social sandbox' game that allows one to play solo but is designed to reward people for cooperating. Playing solo is fine so long as you accept that you are limiting your own experience. Sorry if you don't like that.
hah yeah I was going to mention the same thing while reading his post, it rings of it. This is a sandbox mmo, it's not just that it's "multi-player" and everyone plays together etc whatever. It's a wide open persistent massive environment unlike most/all themeparks that are more modeled after solo-play hand-holding insta-grat and the casual instanced raid style of Diablo1 that became popularized with games like wow and cloned or reitarated into most every game.

Since UO, solo play has always been viable in the sandbox, and here it is too. But you do miss out on things if you are not connected to other players somehow, at some point, without which the sandbox will get boring fast if you spend your entire existence playing it like a solo dungeon with a chat and trade lobby as most modern themepark "mmo's" tend to be. Doesn't mean you need to jump into nul and join a blob, but there are opportunities (for lack of a better unassociated word here heh) throughout all areas of new eden where co-op play exists within the sandbox which intertwines with other co-op play happening around you effecting one another.

Being a sandbox, most/all play styles fit, but there is no escaping it into ones own personal instanced dungeon. But eventually you will need to socialize, and one way or another you will, even if it's just though some other guys killmail. Welcome to the sandbox, leave your themepark at the door.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#56 - 2015-06-05 21:18:31 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


I smell Theme park lover somewhere. *sniff sniff*, yep, themparker near by. Sry, but we don't take kindly to ur kind round yehr.

EVE is the kind of 'social sandbox' game that allows one to play solo but is designed to reward people for cooperating. Playing solo is fine so long as you accept that you are limiting your own experience. Sorry if you don't like that.
hah yeah I was going to mention the same thing while reading his post, it rings of it. This is a sandbox mmo, it's not just that it's "multi-player" and everyone plays together etc whatever. It's a wide open persistent massive environment unlike most/all themeparks that are more modeled after solo-play hand-holding insta-grat and the casual instanced raid style of Diablo1 that became popularized with games like wow and cloned or reitarated into most every game.

Since UO, solo play has always been viable in the sandbox, and here it is too. But you do miss out on things if you are not connected to other players somehow, at some point, without which the sandbox will get boring fast if you spend your entire existence playing it like a solo dungeon with a chat and trade lobby as most modern themepark "mmo's" tend to be. Doesn't mean you need to jump into nul and join a blob, but there are opportunities (for lack of a better unassociated word here heh) throughout all areas of new eden where co-op play exists within the sandbox which intertwines with other co-op play happening around you effecting one another.

Being a sandbox, most/all play styles fit, but there is no escaping it into ones own personal instanced dungeon. But eventually you will need to socialize, and one way or another you will, even if it's just though some other guys killmail. Welcome to the sandbox, leave your themepark at the door.



Yep, through random chats with diplomats or random members of alliances at time, i got various legs up in my eve carrier. Hell, a chance talk with vile rat(rip) made me a goon ally once for a while. a randon chat wiht Tyrax once, allowed me to co-operate with them in the fix invastion. Its crazy what comes of a single chat. Or a random corp member going on to bigger then then going 'hey reap i was in your corp once.. you guys want to join goon?" And it NOT being a scam (turned him down though) Anyway, play with others.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#57 - 2015-06-06 02:10:00 UTC
500M in your wallet
Do not move all your stuff.
Use an empty pod.
Use one toon to join a Providence alliance.

Loads and loads of fleets to join - from fun little roaming gangs to huge SOV battles lately.
Make sure to check the forums for doctrine ships and fit accordingly.

If you want, I will even scout you in, so you can set your medical clone.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2015-06-06 07:00:34 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Glathull wrote:
You blame the game design for everything that you don't know how to do.


OMG Glathull, I didn't realize who that poster was, he's the very same "Don't train Battleships" guy. I was thinking about just that post when I posted my 1st reply in this thread, but I never made the connection till I saw your post.

The bad thing is that there are lots of people who don't know better who listen to these kinds of people. 8 years ago i was almost one of them as I joined a mission running corp and was fed all kinds of false information about the game (nice people, but totally misguided, I missed out on a whole lot of fun in my 1st months because I didn't know better than to listen to them).

A bit off topic but i just find it ironic that the type of carebear naysayers tend to claim it's 'bad people' that shoo people out of the game, when in fact it's their actions and misinformation (IE "the game design is against you so don't even bother trying") that probably has a worse effect on retention than the actions of those 'bad people' which probably contributes positively to player retention.


Listen, I know the truth hurts, but you should calm down here. The Battleships thread is awesome advice, but there is no need to mention that here in GD. I recommend everyone join a null sec alliance or a large corp that is structured in fun activity for players. If they can not find one, I suggest they make one.

Proof:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=424421&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425189&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425714&find=unread

The game design is bad because, it emphasizes numbers over individual skill. Fitting ships is a game of numbers. Fleeting is a game of numbers. Sov is a game of numbers. Provided all pilots are generally intelligent, blob> camp> gang> small gang> solo. This kind of bad design is why people call it spreadsheets in space, etc...

Your the same guy who gives multi box mission running advice advice, and has the nerve to call me a carebear? People like you love this game because you can run multiple characters at a time. All this "get group" nonsense that keeps going around is coming from multi boxers, who did not find a group, but bought a group. The game design shoos people away, not bad people or misinformation.
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#59 - 2015-06-06 07:35:38 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Glathull wrote:
You blame the game design for everything that you don't know how to do.


OMG Glathull, I didn't realize who that poster was, he's the very same "Don't train Battleships" guy. I was thinking about just that post when I posted my 1st reply in this thread, but I never made the connection till I saw your post.

The bad thing is that there are lots of people who don't know better who listen to these kinds of people. 8 years ago i was almost one of them as I joined a mission running corp and was fed all kinds of false information about the game (nice people, but totally misguided, I missed out on a whole lot of fun in my 1st months because I didn't know better than to listen to them).

A bit off topic but i just find it ironic that the type of carebear naysayers tend to claim it's 'bad people' that shoo people out of the game, when in fact it's their actions and misinformation (IE "the game design is against you so don't even bother trying") that probably has a worse effect on retention than the actions of those 'bad people' which probably contributes positively to player retention.


Listen, I know the truth hurts, but you should calm down here. The Battleships thread is awesome advice, but there is no need to mention that here in GD. I recommend everyone join a null sec alliance or a large corp that is structured in fun activity for players. If they can not find one, I suggest they make one.

Proof:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=424421&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425189&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425714&find=unread

The game design is bad because, it emphasizes numbers over individual skill. Fitting ships is a game of numbers. Fleeting is a game of numbers. Sov is a game of numbers. Provided all pilots are generally intelligent, blob> camp> gang> small gang> solo. This kind of bad design is why people call it spreadsheets in space, etc...

Your the same guy who gives multi box mission running advice advice, and has the nerve to call me a carebear? People like you love this game because you can run multiple characters at a time. All this "get group" nonsense that keeps going around is coming from multi boxers, who did not find a group, but bought a group. The game design shoos people away, not bad people or misinformation.



What kind of idiot ficktarded rules do you want the game to follow? Rules where you just win because you want to?

Check out Lanchester's law, mmmkay?

There is a bit of real life balance to some of what is going on here in EvE. The fact that you can't see it doesn't mean the game isn't working right, dolt.

Here's the bottom line: you don't understand this game. You tell everyone it's broken. We laugh at you because you are pretty much rere. Repeat ad nauseum.

Are you messed up in the head? Yes. Numbers win over quality. All the friggin time. Duh.

You are really really really dim for thinking otherwise.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2015-06-06 07:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Aza Ebanu
Glathull wrote:



What kind of idiot ficktarded rules do you want the game to follow? Rules where you just win because you want to?

Check out Lanchester's law, mmmkay?

There is a bit of real life balance to some of what is going on here in EvE. The fact that you can't see it doesn't mean the game isn't working right, dolt.

Here's the bottom line: you don't understand this game. You tell everyone it's broken. We laugh at you because you are pretty much rere. Repeat ad nauseum.

Are you messed up in the head? Yes. Numbers win over quality. All the friggin time. Duh.

You are really really really dim for thinking otherwise.

Whoa dude:

4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

BTW part of winning (especially in competitions/games) is wanting to win... So yeah.

RL balance and EVE Online...

The game is in a state of balancing/fixing... so yeah it is.

Numbers do not always win over quality. Eventually there is a balance, just not in EVE currently.