EVE General Discussion

People who are getting into FW or Sov also know what they are getting out of it as well. Right now there is no rational reason for most people under war dec to undock. Much the same way as there are very few good reasons for corps in high sec to exist when you can either sit in a one person corp for the tax benefit or stay in an NPC corp.

Personally I see the solution to this in structures; something that a corp can create to increase their earning potential and to encourage them to form larger groups to help them maintain their hold and engage combat pilots to help them defend.

The risk is already there, there is just no reason a rational person would expose themselves to it needlessly. So really there needs to be a reason.

Conflict, conflict... What is conflict to you? Just the use of hybrid blasters? Or... I'm reminded of the person that posted in this thread (or maybe the "why do..." thread) who was talking about wanting to shoot at NPC corp miners who could out-compete him in asteroid fields. Is that not a legitimate form of conflict, the competition for EVE resources? Clear out an asteroid field before somebody else can get there and you really mess with their ISK stream. Much more so than the cost of a mining barge. Or on the market, if I put an item up for sale, within a minute somebody has adjusted their own sell order to be 0.01 ISK higher. Is this not conflict as well?

Come to low or null if you want to pew. Syndicate PvP has been pretty robust lately, in fact.

Wars won't be meaningful so long as they can be entered into so easily. Anyone with 50 mill and a bit of jealousy or spite can try to jack with you. That isn't meaningful, it just means someone has a grudge.

Nope. You and Feyd keep telling yourself that though.


Yup, and on the playstyles you support there's already very little risk to the massive rewards. Wardecs are ludicrously out of balance in terms of risk-reward which is why groups can afford to run hundreds of them simultaneously.

No they aren't.

No, because if you understand that NPC corps are a valid playstyle just like any other, there's no reason they should be made to be inferior to anyone else. What give you the right to dictate how others should be allowed to play?

Incorrect. Hi Sec NPC Corp miners have a huge reward over risk advantage over Hi Sec mining corps. Haulers also have a better time HS hauling while in an NPC Corp. Bumpers can sit on gate in relative safety while their prey AP's towards them.



You have 24hrs till a WD starts. If you cannot organize a strong defence / removal of space assets / Jump Corp / re-roll corp in that time....... I'll leave that unsaid. You call them Greifers. Pray tell me how so? Last time I looked Griefing was a bannable offence, and WDing was a valid game mechanic. Why should my only option be to Gank. Especially as being in an NPC Corp has a better reward / risk.



I would rather they had a chance on a random 2500m kickout when undocking.

Of course not. There's also missile launchers, lasers, and autocannons/artillery.



No. EVE Online is a PvP game, and PvP belongs everywhere, including highsec. For my part, as I have mentioned in other threads, I believe that the people who need shot at the most reside in highsec, and they tend to have better loot drops to boot.

PvP is in highsec. You can station trade. You can compete for ore, you can get ganked. You can gank. You can even compete for DED sites or exploration sites. Then there are incursions.

Yet only one... ONE very small part of PvP in highsec is wardecs. Why is that the only part you see. And when it suits i may add.

Misrepresenting again Mike?

I have NO issue with societies/clubs provided they are only accessible to people in full corporations as an added feature set for people with some skin in the game.

The point you keep avoiding dealing with is you would give corp-like features under the guise of 'societies/clubs' to people hiding out in NPC corps who are immune to wardecs, and as a byproduct create additional incentive to never leave NPC corps. You would also entice edge-case CEO's and members already in full corps, to drop corp and re-form as a 'society' in NPC corps free from future wars.

In short, you would reduce content creation for hisec mercs, while giving additional corp-like features to those in NPC corps without any additional risk buy in.

What are your plans to create offsetting content-creation drivers, for those hisec mercs who are losing content here? What is your plan to buff their target lists as counter-weight to your proposal to entrench (and drive) more players into NPC corps?

(silence...sound of crickets...)

You really should switch to doing magic instead Mike, and save the sleight of hand for the stage. EvE is not founded on telling its players one thing while actually delivering another blow to content creation on the other hand; which is exactly what you are up to with this societies candy for NPC pansies. I say man up and go for the gold Mike -- just come out of the closet and call for safeties to be locked at GREEN the moment you jump into hisec, and the complete abolishment of wars.

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Is already Groundhog Day again?

I love how you selectively cite the nerfs to highsec aggressors without mentioning the buff that they've gotten at the same time.

cargo Scanning corp hangars and SMA's (a nasty hit to the orca)

cargo scanning through plastic wrap courier packages

Removal of the successive week and stacking penalties on wardec costs. (It actually used to cost money to prosecute more wars, The previous record was 20. Now marmite and it's ilk can have over 150 wardecs active)

Oh, and since you are daft I'll just note that the Prospect doesn't get the warp strength bonus of the Venture, It's bonus is to the operation of a covert ops cloak. The only mining ship capable of doing so.

Keep up this level of misinformation and omission and you'll be a staff writer for MSNBC in no time!

#rekt #shotsfired