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Suggestion to "lighten" the moderation on the forum

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The Newface
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-06-04 22:46:22 UTC
Current moderation on the forum is in my opinion overly strict and at the same time without any consistency.
The nature of a forum about EVE is that most subjects has been touched before since there is only so much to talk about.

It doesn't promote discussion to have moderators locking threads that touches something that been up before, same thing with making a sticky collection about 10 different subject and locking any thread talking about something that resembles one of these subjects.

for the moderators: im happy to demonstrate this by spending a hour or two some day and just report any subject that's been touched before.

Am all for moderation of rude and offensive posts as well as deliberate spam but let us create subjects with (for this forum) specific suggestion without locking them due to someone touched the area before.

Or create 3 thread and lock the forum
1. ship changes
2. character changes
3 other...
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-06-04 22:48:35 UTC
INB4L

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#3 - 2015-06-04 22:53:07 UTC
you seem to have forgotten that discussing moderation on the forums is grounds for immediete lock of a thread.

CCP has very clear cut rules for forum regulation, they are neither overly strict or suppressive. Instead all of these other threads rehashing everything to death simply clog up the forum and prevent discussion of ideas already in place by pushing them back page after page.

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The Newface
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-06-04 22:59:31 UTC
Christopher Mabata wrote:
you seem to have forgotten that discussing moderation on the forums is grounds for immediete lock of a thread.

CCP has very clear cut rules for forum regulation, they are neither overly strict or suppressive. Instead all of these other threads rehashing everything to death simply clog up the forum and prevent discussion of ideas already in place by pushing them back page after page.

INB4 Lock


Not sure if that's right but if it is i find it very funny. If the rules prevent you for discussing changing the rules, thats actually close to the definition of repressive Big smile
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2015-06-04 23:02:01 UTC
If you aren't happy with forum moderation, the correct action to take is file a petition.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-06-04 23:13:18 UTC
Two of my threads been locked by Dorrim. Took 4 weeks to figure that out with support team that me better to submit bug report vs petition strong judgement of Dorrim.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-06-05 00:07:37 UTC
The Newface wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
you seem to have forgotten that discussing moderation on the forums is grounds for immediete lock of a thread.

CCP has very clear cut rules for forum regulation, they are neither overly strict or suppressive. Instead all of these other threads rehashing everything to death simply clog up the forum and prevent discussion of ideas already in place by pushing them back page after page.

INB4 Lock


Not sure if that's right but if it is i find it very funny. If the rules prevent you for discussing changing the rules, thats actually close to the definition of repressive Big smile

CCP is a company enforcing its own standards. If you don't like them, I'm sure you'll be welcome at the dozens of other boards with their own rule sets.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#8 - 2015-06-05 00:22:37 UTC
Rowells wrote:
The Newface wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
you seem to have forgotten that discussing moderation on the forums is grounds for immediete lock of a thread.

CCP has very clear cut rules for forum regulation, they are neither overly strict or suppressive. Instead all of these other threads rehashing everything to death simply clog up the forum and prevent discussion of ideas already in place by pushing them back page after page.

INB4 Lock


Not sure if that's right but if it is i find it very funny. If the rules prevent you for discussing changing the rules, thats actually close to the definition of repressive Big smile

CCP is a company enforcing its own standards. If you don't like them, I'm sure you'll be welcome at the dozens of other boards with their own rule sets.


Bam
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FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#9 - 2015-06-05 05:40:52 UTC
HEAR HEAR the wisdom of Rowells...

And the moderation load is shared by all, i for one am about to report this thread since it lacks a Feature or an Idea... Well lacking a feature and a GOOD idea;)
Panty Stocking
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-06-05 06:01:35 UTC
I'd urge all the isd's to post in this thread so we can spam likes as support
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2015-06-05 06:32:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Decoy
I understand where you are coming from, however the spirit of the redundancy rule in my opinion is to focus discussions into single threads. If an idea was suggested in 2006 and hasn't been discussed since then, I don't believe any of us will actually lock it for redundancy. Put yourself in a Dev's position, and they want to read feedback on a particular issue or discover novel ideas. It'd be an inefficient waste of their time to have to go through several threads to find the core of the thought or idea. We try and synthesize it so it is easier for them.

But when the first couple pages of a board have a subject discussed ad nauseum, we certainly will lock them up and direct them to a single thread.

Regardless, please use the Support Ticket system to discuss moderation issues with our overlords.

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The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.

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