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Gila fit for PVE

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Talia Valta
ValtaTeleVisuals
#1 - 2015-03-16 12:21:33 UTC
Hi all,

Is this fit, found on EVE Uni Wiki Database, still a viable fit?

[Gila, PvE Brawler]
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I

EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Ogre I x5
Garde I x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5

Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile x1000

Working against Guristas, I'd change the missiles to Scourge, and the launchers to arbalest whilst working on T2 launchers.

I do have all fitting skills to V, so the Power Diagnostics would be changed for a Shield Power relay.

If this fit isn't suitable, then what would be better please?

Thanks in advance.
Warmonger Simon
Trinity Alpha Zero
#2 - 2015-03-16 12:46:19 UTC
Depends on what PvE activities you want to do. Please specific the use.
Spugg Galdon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-03-16 12:52:50 UTC
It is incredibly out of date.......

As you said you're going against Guristas I'm going to assume you're ratting.

If you don't mind spending a bit of isk:

Quote:


[Gila, PvE - HAM]
Power Diagnostic System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Conjunctive Gravimetric ECCM Scanning Array I
Gistum B-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Gistum B-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
10MN Afterburner II
'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II

'Augmented' Hammerhead x2



it's not terribly expensive and can be pimped out more with faction drone damage amps if you want.

Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-03-16 16:04:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
[Gila, Serp Missions]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Hammerhead II x10

Something like this for standard mission running. Change hardeners, missiles and drones to suit mission. For missions you know you won't need this much tank, consider changing one or two of the LSEs for drone nav comps, it will shorten your missions times when the targets are far away and/or spread out.

Don't use anything but medium drones, the bonus does not apply to anything but mediums. While lights are normally recommended for elite frigs, you have the missiles so there is no need to carry lights.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Orlacc
#5 - 2015-03-16 16:57:18 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
[Gila, Serp Missions]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Hammerhead II x10

Something like this for standard mission running. Change hardeners, missiles and drones to suit mission. For missions you know you won't need this much tank, consider changing one or two of the LSEs for drone nav comps, it will shorten your missions times when the targets are far away and/or spread out.

Don't use anything but medium drones, the bonus does not apply to anything but mediums. While lights are normally recommended for elite frigs, you have the missiles so there is no need to carry lights.



This^^

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Talia Valta
ValtaTeleVisuals
#6 - 2015-03-17 08:55:38 UTC
Thanks guys.

The ship is for ratting in null space, but I won't be AFK.

Fly safe o7
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-03-17 15:58:29 UTC
Talia Valta wrote:
Thanks guys.

The ship is for ratting in null space, but I won't be AFK.

Fly safe o7


put prototype cloack instead of drone link...it saved me few times
Matacarro
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-05-26 18:34:08 UTC
Just found this post, I'm also going to be ratting Guristas. So why not use augmented Vespas? Since Guristas do kinetic damage as primary. And thermal as secondary?
Paranoid Loyd
#9 - 2015-05-26 20:10:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Garrett Osinov wrote:
put prototype cloack instead of drone link...it saved me few times
It is also quite likely, the only reason you needed it to save you is because it took too long to run the site because you gimped your scan res.

Matacarro wrote:
Just found this post, I'm also going to be ratting Guristas. So why not use augmented Vespas? Since Guristas do kinetic damage as primary. And thermal as secondary?
Yes, you are correct, Vespas are preferred. Sorry if my post mislead you, I was copy pasting from one of the many other previous Gila threads to provide a template. I would test runtimes comparing Augmented vs T2, if you don't see a vast improvement I would stick with T2s, you may need to GTFO unexpectedly with your drones dispatched far away, at ~40mil/ea you don't want to be leaving augmented drones behind as it is counter productive.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Matacarro
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-05-26 20:24:28 UTC
agreed ty!
Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
#11 - 2015-05-27 07:48:12 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
[Gila, Serp Missions]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Hammerhead II x10

Something like this for standard mission running. Change hardeners, missiles and drones to suit mission. For missions you know you won't need this much tank, consider changing one or two of the LSEs for drone nav comps, it will shorten your missions times when the targets are far away and/or spread out.

Don't use anything but medium drones, the bonus does not apply to anything but mediums. While lights are normally recommended for elite frigs, you have the missiles so there is no need to carry lights.



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Sacu Shi
UK Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2015-05-31 06:19:08 UTC
Bruce Kemp wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
[Gila, Serp Missions]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Hammerhead II x10

Something like this for standard mission running. Change hardeners, missiles and drones to suit mission. For missions you know you won't need this much tank, consider changing one or two of the LSEs for drone nav comps, it will shorten your missions times when the targets are far away and/or spread out.

Don't use anything but medium drones, the bonus does not apply to anything but mediums. While lights are normally recommended for elite frigs, you have the missiles so there is no need to carry lights.



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Allaera
Kalmincon
#13 - 2015-06-03 16:46:35 UTC
Sacu Shi wrote:
Bruce Kemp wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
[Gila, Serp Missions]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Hammerhead II x10

Something like this for standard mission running. Change hardeners, missiles and drones to suit mission. For missions you know you won't need this much tank, consider changing one or two of the LSEs for drone nav comps, it will shorten your missions times when the targets are far away and/or spread out.

Don't use anything but medium drones, the bonus does not apply to anything but mediums. While lights are normally recommended for elite frigs, you have the missiles so there is no need to carry lights.



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(had to be done P)
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2015-06-03 17:12:51 UTC
Matacarro wrote:
Just found this post, I'm also going to be ratting Guristas. So why not use augmented Vespas? Since Guristas do kinetic damage as primary. And thermal as secondary?


Augmented Hammerheads cost less than augmented vespas, also the hammerheads have a higher damage modifier. the damage split is pretty even between kin/therm for both drones. even so I think most people just stick with t2 drones due to the cost.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#15 - 2015-06-03 18:40:31 UTC  |  Edited by: elitatwo
Matacarro wrote:
Just found this post, I'm also going to be ratting Guristas. So why not use augmented Vespas? Since Guristas do kinetic damage as primary. And thermal as secondary?


You want Caldari Navy Vespas for killing Guristas, I won't tell why but you want them and they cost less than the augmentes drones.

And of course what Paranoid said Big smile

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Gh0stBust3rs
Templars HIghsec
Stellar Fusion
#16 - 2015-06-05 05:34:55 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Matacarro wrote:
Just found this post, I'm also going to be ratting Guristas. So why not use augmented Vespas? Since Guristas do kinetic damage as primary. And thermal as secondary?


You want Caldari Navy Vaspas for killing Guristas, I won't tell why but you want them and they cost less than the augmentes drones.

And of course what Paranoid said Big smile



vespas do less overall dps but track better and move faster. Which means they have better applied dps
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-06-05 07:01:21 UTC
2 T2 Hardeners are plenty, no real need to shiney them.

Most of the time you'll need an Adaptive + 1 specific, apart from Bloods

Angels - Explosive
Guristas - Kinetic
Drones - Explosive
Sansha - EM
Serpentis - Thermic

Bloods - EM + Thermic


elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#18 - 2015-06-05 14:38:48 UTC
Gh0stBust3rs wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Matacarro wrote:
Just found this post, I'm also going to be ratting Guristas. So why not use augmented Vespas? Since Guristas do kinetic damage as primary. And thermal as secondary?


You want Caldari Navy Vaspas for killing Guristas, I won't tell why but you want them and they cost less than the augmentes drones.

And of course what Paranoid said Big smile



vespas do less overall dps than Hammerheads but more than Infiltrators and Valkyries but track better and move faster. Which means they have better applied dps


Added for conformity, you are welcome.

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Mistress Rose
Defensores Fidei
#19 - 2015-06-06 00:42:40 UTC
Just out of curiousity...since we are talking applied damage. Would rockets be viable as the "orbiting frig killing" system? They tend to apply their damage better, though the range is limited. Would this not free up a bit of CPU for, say, a Drone Link II or Nav Computer?

/mr
Paranoid Loyd
#20 - 2015-06-06 00:48:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
The gain in application (if any) is mitigate by the loss in DPS (~220 vs ~ 90) and as you mentioned the range. If you want to gain more CPU then change to the Prototype 'Arbalest' version of the rapid launchers.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

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