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A question: What do you wish you had known?

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#241 - 2015-05-21 22:48:22 UTC
Frank Armour wrote:
I'm almost 3 months into this game and has a brand new player, I think the following should be STRONGLY reinforced into any new players mind.

First of all. It has been mentioned over and over BUT, PVP...PVP...PVP... (Player versus Player)... PVP... Players versus Player... Players versus... well, you're on your own at first so... really player(s) versus you! It's unavoidable, it's everywhere, it's gonna frustrate you, it's gonna cost you that hard to get ISK you see disappearing like smoke and it's gonna bugle your mind! Why did he kill me? Why did he killed me so easily? Why could'nt I target him? Where did he came from? Why could'nt I hit him? What was that damn ship? He killed my ship...darn... oh wait... He can also destroy that little pod I'm in.... and He even killed my character! Wow!!!

Now, I'm still here and It's because mostly of an awesome community who answers my questions and don't hesitate to help me if I ask. My solution for this huge blank space in this universe is quite simple.

I wish there was an agent/tutorial/whatever that interface lady names that gives opportunities out, who would of send me to a PVP area! Just a place in the beginner's area where you can go and dish it out with fellow new players. Just a spot with his own channel that's in the newbie area where you can go nuts and try to take out other players just like you. Maybe make it so all faction (minmatar, caldari, amarr, gallente) could appear in that area with their rookie ships and make mayhem happens!

Imagine how fun it would be to just have a rookie ship, a bunch of civilian modules, like too many then what you need. Just to try fittings and equipments. Making you realise what works for the ship and for you. Loosing ship after ship, just going at it. learning how it is to be outnumbered or to start a toon with a friend and see how a fleet and teamwork can change the whole game dynamic. I can easily see an area like that, only available to less than so many skillpoint toons or less than 3 days old or whatever works kinda deal. Players would all be able to chat in that area and the opportunity thingy or whatever should mention that you CAN speak with someone that just killed you and tell him GF or that you want a rematch. Reinforcing the good vibe that this game has.

And like everyone else... D-SCAN... I was reading through this post and realised that the D-Scan work with your camera and not the ship directions... if it's true... gotta try it now to see if I'll be able to find someone on that damn thing. I feel like D-Scan is shouting my name in a warning when I get into Low-Sec for crying out loud and I can't seam to find a damn ship 1 AU from me!
D-Scan people.... D-Scan!


A place that you can reach with a wormhole (the arena for noobs), and you can just leave by dying, does that sounds like a plan? ;)... its a good learning school. And very EVE like, since you enter till death.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
Argyle Henderson
Assault Squadron Indigo
Apocalypse Now.
#242 - 2015-06-01 15:00:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Argyle Henderson
I wish I had known how horrible the players in this game are.
In real life they may be fine individuals. But in the eve world they are all
scum. The only exception to this would be the players that hang out in the HELP chan.
It's obvious to me that by far and away the majority of Eve players had their lunch money
taken by bullies in school got beat up and are now over compensating.
My player warning list (bad players) is over a hundred players long. My Good Rep list is like 10)

There should be a warning label on this game that says:

Warning: Eve online is a pvp game filled with @sshole space pirates. By purchasing this subscription you consent to be killed at any time & any where for no reason at all other than you exist. Eve is a cancer on the internet and it's player base is the absolute lowest common denominator of humanity that exists to feed it's own ego while swimming in the shallow end of it's own gene pool.By purchasing this subscription you consent to abandoning all resemblances of morality, dignity or common human decency. The common reply of "Your tears taste delicious" is proof in point that eve players are all trash.




HAD I known what eve truly was I'd have kept my credit card in my D@mn wallet. Eve misrepresents it's self as a game that anyone can play. That has playing opportunities other than space combat. Yeah try that and see wtf happens.

I've been playing eve since November. The only reason I'm still here is because I've put too much real world money
($400.00 USD) into this game to simply just walk away. I had to literally stop playing for over 2 months to get this one group of players to stop harassing me. That lasted about 2 weeks after I came back. Now they are at it again. CCP will do nothing. Players can do the worst things they can do to you in game and CCP will do next to nothing. Use profanity in game chat and a GM will email you with in five minutes. File a support ticket....expect an answer 2 weeks latter.

I don't play eve for combat. I expected some pvp combat. But not so much that you can hardly leave your home station with out being blown up. (and I'm in a + 0.06 system) My 1st day in eve I was podded in a 1.0 system in a rookie ship. And was just going from my school system to the system next door. This game sucks. I started eve to haul freight and mine. With that there was a certain expectation of pvp interaction. While there is pve content everywhere....the pvp is so overwhelming no one can enjoy the other content. Mine in low or null sec...you get ganked by pirates, try to stay in high sec you get harassed by CODE. There is literally no where in this game that you can enjoy pve and non pvp content with out being harassed by pvp players.

If after today my issues aren't addressed and resolved...I will end my time with Eve as a paying customer. I've been asked by ppl I play with in other game about Eve. All I can tell them is to keep your credit card in your wallet. It's not worth it. The game is unplayable.


THAT"S what I wish I had known before I paid for 3 months up front, and paid for PLEX many times over. Sad
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#243 - 2015-06-04 22:03:36 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
That double clicking in space would orient my ship in that direction.


This, so much! I vividly remember getting frustrated about how to perform simple maneuvers. Ah, I actually miss being a newbro.

eve online original intro
Haghala Connor
ShirimeNet
#244 - 2015-06-05 01:21:17 UTC
1. Server Tranquility, Join XXXXX Other Players.
XXXXX Is the number shown in your launcher att anytime tranquility is online, now divide the number by (3-5 dice roll) to get a proper estimate of players instead of accounts online.

2. Make sure you have your map set to "ships destroyed in last 1 hour" and never warp to 0.5 or lower if the number is above 1 because there will be a gate camp there. Also don't trust the map because it takes a long time for it to update.

3. Add CODE alliance to your Contacts as terrible standing for easy to spot hostile players.

4. If you see people with orange or red overview name when you warp to or from a stargate, you just lost your ship.

5. Warp Stabilizers are only there to make you believe that you can prevent warp scramblers.

6. If you have less than 6m SP, don't even bother to try and fly anything, just make a skill queue for mastery 2 of your faction frigate and log off until its done.

7. First 3 months of EVE is best played offline waiting for skills to complete.

8. Don't be tricked by CCP's EVE Trailers, they look awesome but tells about as much about EVE as the line: "USA won WW2" does about modern history.

9. People Will steal from your wreaks when at a combat site.

10. If you see another person on the overview, assume he will try to kill you.

11. Learn D-Scan.

Those are the 11 things i have learned coming back to EVE.
Gratuitous Nudity
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#245 - 2015-07-04 05:43:28 UTC
One thing I wish I'd known: the forums are just as fun as the game. :)
Johnny Riko
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#246 - 2015-07-16 18:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Riko
Haghala Connor wrote:
1. Server Tranquility, Join XXXXX Other Players.
XXXXX Is the number shown in your launcher att anytime tranquility is online, now divide the number by (3-5 dice roll) to get a proper estimate of players instead of accounts online.

2. Make sure you have your map set to "ships destroyed in last 1 hour" and never warp to 0.5 or lower if the number is above 1 because there will be a gate camp there. Also don't trust the map because it takes a long time for it to update.

3. Add CODE alliance to your Contacts as terrible standing for easy to spot hostile players.

4. If you see people with orange or red overview name when you warp to or from a stargate, you just lost your ship.

5. Warp Stabilizers are only there to make you believe that you can prevent warp scramblers.

6. If you have less than 6m SP, don't even bother to try and fly anything, just make a skill queue for mastery 2 of your faction frigate and log off until its done.

7. First 3 months of EVE is best played offline waiting for skills to complete.

8. Don't be tricked by CCP's EVE Trailers, they look awesome but tells about as much about EVE as the line: "USA won WW2" does about modern history.

9. People Will steal from your wreaks when at a combat site.

10. If you see another person on the overview, assume he will try to kill you.

11. Learn D-Scan.

Those are the 11 things i have learned coming back to EVE.


I'm a new player, but even I know this is a terrible post.

The best advice I can give anyone is to join a corp dedicated to helping new players learn the game. I joined brave and I've been enjoying the game so much more since.

I wanna join up. I think I got what it takes to be a Citizen.
Oracle Computation
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#247 - 2015-07-25 11:17:21 UTC
Don't just play on one character, you should be training all your alt slots.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#248 - 2015-08-14 05:10:38 UTC
Buy a 50m+ SP toon and avoid the skill point grind. It sucks not being able to fly all the good stuff (well) you want for years.

Get into nullsec (or losec) ASAP. Do not get on the hisec PVE hamster wheel. Join Brave Newbies or Pandemic Horde on day 1.

Would you like to know more?
Sylia Ze'ral
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#249 - 2015-08-15 21:50:37 UTC
i wish i had known F12 for career mission
i just got in the game and did everything i could to complete all the opportunities, because it is there when you start the game like a tutorial.
Dale Liathain
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#250 - 2015-08-18 15:50:54 UTC
A lot of these posts that say: "Just log off until such-and-such skills are done," are terrible advice.

The best advice to this game is to just see something you want to do, and then do it.

Don't wait for the skill points. Just equip a ship and go make an attempt.

You'll be quite surprised what you can handle in a T1 ship with T1 fittings all by yourself.

For PvP, join a corp. There are many ways a new player can ruin a veteran's day with a T1 ship, but you'll need veterans on your own side to do the actual damage and secure the kill.
Sitting Bull Lakota
Poppins and Company
#251 - 2015-08-23 10:34:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Sitting Bull Lakota
I just crossed into 43,000,000 skill points about a week ago, and I wish I'd known one thing.

I wish I'd known that the attributes, remapping, implants, skill points, and tech II were just a dog and pony show. You don't need to have reached master of insert ship here level to be effective in pvp. In fleets especially, every ship counts. I heard a fleet commander rail at a new player over losing a tackle fit slasher to a stupid move. The FC just jumped on comms with " Great. Now I'm out a tackle, because you had to chase the svipul when I told everyone to stay at the gate."
Every ship counts. Always follow orders.

A few useful items In no particular order:

  • Pods are valid wartargets.
  • Set up an instant dock at stations you frequent like Jita. I use a bookmark just a little bit above the station. You never know when you're going to depend on being able to dock as soon as you break warp. You can't rely on the game to put you in the docking circle.
  • When you undock, if you just let your ship coast, you will be untargetable for about 20ish seconds. You can use that time to decide if it is safe to warp off or you need to dock up.
  • You can remap almost every control. My bindings give me 12 modules, individual overheat options for each, and warping/docking and manual piloting all around the WASD keys using shift and alt.
  • Size and expense do not compensate for player skill. The bigger/costlier the ship, the more player skill (not sp) required to field it effectively in solo/gang combat. A well flown battleship can eat gangs alive. A poorly flown one will die embarassingly to a mining barge.
Ro Riro
DOBIS Galactic
#252 - 2015-09-13 13:09:37 UTC
Endo Saissore wrote:
I wish I had know that running certain missions for Gallente would affect my standings for Caldari. I was a month old and was hated by the Caldari without knowing why! I think all the missions that cause a standings loss for the other factions (excluding pirate factions) should be removed. It adds nothing to the game and it isn't clear for new pilots. I can't tell you how many times I have to explain to my new recruits that certain missions will make you lose access to Jita.


hey guys i just started playing like 6 hours ago. this quote is about 2 years old but should i be concerned about this? im gallente doing intro missions right now.
Johnny Riko
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#253 - 2015-09-16 07:30:22 UTC
Ro Riro wrote:
Endo Saissore wrote:
I wish I had know that running certain missions for Gallente would affect my standings for Caldari. I was a month old and was hated by the Caldari without knowing why! I think all the missions that cause a standings loss for the other factions (excluding pirate factions) should be removed. It adds nothing to the game and it isn't clear for new pilots. I can't tell you how many times I have to explain to my new recruits that certain missions will make you lose access to Jita.


hey guys i just started playing like 6 hours ago. this quote is about 2 years old but should i be concerned about this? im gallente doing intro missions right now.


Not in the slightest.
People in the new players section are overly dramatic. Eve is not as horribly brutal and difficult as they try to make out. Granted it's difficult compared to most mmo's, but it is a game where if you're willing to put the effort in to learn stuff, that you will prosper and have a good time.

I would recommend doing as many career agent missions as possible, try and complete the sisters of eve arc, and then get involved with a large newbee friendly xorporation. The game is a completely different affair then. I started enjoying eve much more when I joined a big corporation who could help me learn the ropes and getting me involved in pvp/other action in nullsec.

I wanna join up. I think I got what it takes to be a Citizen.
Lieu Thiesant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#254 - 2015-09-20 03:45:19 UTC
I wish I had known that Trader was my real vocation 3 years ago.


I wish I didn't only find out about it 3 years after starting and testing everything else.


(Except Pirate and Manufacturing , +Empire Builder).
Amber Starview
Doomheim
#255 - 2015-10-02 03:50:05 UTC
I wish I knew more out of game websites - mittani,evenews,eve uni ,reddit ,eve survival ,YouTube links to Jonny pew,seamus Donahue,and eve guides and some other cool ones
For me eve opened up when I joined the communities that surround it so much news ,info ,links ,ship fitting help etc ...eve is complicated at first and by joining other players sharing news and generally being social and involved helped me understand this crazy space kinda .

So a simple Ingame mail with some links

my personal favs when learning eve - agony unleashed and kil2

I know this isn't a mechanic but it's what I wish I knew day 1
Storm Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#256 - 2015-10-07 15:54:07 UTC
CCP Gargant wrote:
Greetings new citizens!

We in the Community team have a question we would like your input on. When you started EVE Online for the first time, what about the game confused you the most?

Is there some mechanic or feature, or even just normal game-play, that you wish someone could have pointed out to you right from the get-go? A word of experience you would impart to an even newer member of the EVE Online family?

I wish id know what ccp planed to nerf the next 2 yers so cold trained skills for a nother profession.

Shit hapens,mowe on......Luky maby your good then......Playe as you like and not as others tell you to.....It dont hurt to be nice....
gexxis
#257 - 2015-10-21 21:32:04 UTC
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Golden_Rules covers the basic i would add two other


#9. trust no one
10#. silent in chat is your friend
Nessto Lombardi
Regiment Of Naga Association
OnlyFleets.
#258 - 2015-11-02 16:11:17 UTC
Probably been said already.
IMPLANTS

Would have loved to know this on day 1.
Alle Monte
Perkone
Caldari State
#259 - 2015-11-03 12:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Alle Monte
To join a corp sooner
Ginnie
Doomheim
#260 - 2015-11-20 17:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginnie
I wasted a lot of time with my main running missions for all sorts of different NPC corps. I didn't understand how the whole LP thing worked. I do now, but not then. I probably have 200K LPs spread across about 10 NPC corps. For this alt, I am sticking with Caldari Steel (she's a mining alt), but my main, whew...all over the place.

Also, I would add, it would be nice to know what the differences actually are. I know some NPC corps don't offer mining missions, period. Others only offer security and distribution missions, for example. But, are there any differences between the types of missions? For example, does one NPC corp offer more anti-Gallente missions than the others? Or may be Sanshas over Angels, or what have you...

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.