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SOLO elite PvP.. Dramiel or Daredevil?

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Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-05-31 23:21:04 UTC
I fly both the Dramiel and the Daredevil and honestly either works well in the right place. for mission runners though i'd be tempted to go a blaster AB devil and abuse that tiny sig radius

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Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#22 - 2015-06-01 06:16:09 UTC
In terms of FW low, I prefer the Dramiel. People underestimate it far more because 'all' it's got is speed which many players don't know how to capitalize on fully so more people will engage you.

Daredevil on the other hand is pretty much impossible to engage in a lower tier ship, the 90% web absolutely wrecks any counter tactics you can come up with. Brick tank Punisher with a neut has a chance to cap out a MWD Blaster Daredevil before it dies, similarly AB rail comet is like 10m/s faster than an MWD Daredevil while scrammed, but you have to start the engagement at the edge of scram or you'll die. Even then theres also the risk that the Daredevi is rail fit with FN web, in which case these 'counters' are pretty much screwed.

This difficulty in engaging the Daredevil means the only fights you'll get are blobs and the Devil doesn't do well against blobs. Dramiel on the other hand is excellent at taking on the blob due to it's amazing speed and disengageability when dual prop fit.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-06-01 07:52:26 UTC
The answer is obviously Worm or Garmur. Lol
Saturn Sabezan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2015-06-01 08:51:24 UTC
The Astero is another option. It doesn't necessarily hit as hard as you might like but is flexible and has good survivability.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#25 - 2015-06-01 08:58:46 UTC
in interceptors online you dont need any of them - waste of time and effort.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#26 - 2015-06-01 09:23:47 UTC
dual web rail harpy is pretty fun

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#27 - 2015-06-01 14:04:03 UTC
Saturn Sabezan wrote:
The Astero is another option. It doesn't necessarily hit as hard as you might like but is flexible and has good survivability.


That moment when the rapid light caracool goes into reload and you're still tanking.

ASTERO. Cause 2/4/4 with 25mbit ain't broken at all.
Ares Desideratus
UNSAFE SPACE
#28 - 2015-06-04 03:41:00 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Saturn Sabezan wrote:
The Astero is another option. It doesn't necessarily hit as hard as you might like but is flexible and has good survivability.


That moment when the rapid light caracool goes into reload and you're still tanking.

ASTERO. Cause 2/4/4 with 25mbit ain't broken at all.

If you're going to complain about something complain about the Cruor, that ship got one of the worst "updates" imaginable when they decided to give him a drone bay with 1 drone in it. Let's have a moment of silence for that little Blood Raider
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#29 - 2015-06-04 12:43:58 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Saturn Sabezan wrote:
The Astero is another option. It doesn't necessarily hit as hard as you might like but is flexible and has good survivability.


That moment when the rapid light caracool goes into reload and you're still tanking.

ASTERO. Cause 2/4/4 with 25mbit ain't broken at all.

If you're going to complain about something complain about the Cruor, that ship got one of the worst "updates" imaginable when they decided to give him a drone bay with 1 drone in it. Let's have a moment of silence for that little Blood Raider


I mean you can decloak an astero on a caracal, tackle it and tank on one repairer, pretty much. No I'm not indicating the Astero is weak.
Ares Desideratus
UNSAFE SPACE
#30 - 2015-06-04 14:03:56 UTC
That's a good thing man, I'm just saying enjoy it while it has a quality role in this game. There are some ships like the Cruor that are supposed to be elite but they just have bad stats and aren't worth flying.
Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#31 - 2015-06-04 21:03:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucy Callagan
Dramiel is crap, gonna get killed by the first slicer pilot who knows a little bit what he is doing.
Daredevil is a good anti-inty, and can blap big stuff if you're flying it in duo (near 900 cold dps).

But if you want to gank farmer, you need to think of what you're going to kill first since they are quite easy prey.
For instance in 0.0 most carebears use ishtars and 100MN vni. For that kind of stuff an orthrus is just fine and even a svipul or now a jackdaw can deal with their tank (and dps)+the orthrus is just fine to hold tackle on a ratting carrier ;)

In HS people seems to be going around in battle ships, so you got to be prepared for longer fights with better tank but with less damage projection (exept from those nasty gecko rattlesnakes Ugh ) so things like a stratios with neuts and geckos should work I think. Or maybe a proteus, and if you ahve weak targets like miner a cynal is just fine with its awsome warp speed.

You'll be super lucky if you manage to catch anything with a darevil or a 100dps astero.
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2015-06-05 15:32:47 UTC
Lucy Callagan wrote:
Dramiel is crap, gonna get killed by the first slicer pilot who knows a little bit what he is doing.
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Well really either the slicer has links/snakes and the dram neither, or the dram pilot must be braindead to be kited "easily" by a slicer
Portmanteau
Iron Krosz
#33 - 2015-06-09 13:22:39 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
So have like few hundred mills to spend. Wanna get either a Dramiel or Daredevil to solo pvp in.
Which one is better for doing elite solo pvp. (No boosts/prob lot of baiting in some backwater hisecs against missioners/mimers/indies)

Please state pros/cons of both.
And max skills minmatar and gallente btw


I can't tell if I'm missing the sarcasm ? What?

Also, didn't know Marcel Marceau was a hisec mission runner
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#34 - 2015-06-10 05:09:10 UTC
Doctor Knuckles wrote:
Lucy Callagan wrote:
Dramiel is crap, gonna get killed by the first slicer pilot who knows a little bit what he is doing.
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Well really either the slicer has links/snakes and the dram neither, or the dram pilot must be braindead to be kited "easily" by a slicer


Confirming. I don't know what you're smoking, but the Dramiel is as hard counter to the Slicer as it gets, it's naturally much faster and assuming a level playing field and that the Dramiel is scram fit, just slingshot the Slicer and it's over, the lasers won't hit with a close orbit. Even if the Slicer is linked/snaked and faster than you the naturally high speed means you can quite easily pull off a defensive slingshot and warp away.
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