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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-06-04 19:43:38 UTC
Let me give a nickel's worth of free advice to anyone in the same boat as the OP.


  1. PvP is hilariously entertaining, even when you lose.
  2. If you have never PvP'd before, find an active PvP corporation (RvB for example) and join them. You won't even have to leave highsec to find fights. You'll also be exposed to the most important tanking style in the game: the fleet mate tank. If you like classes, take an Agony PvP Basic class.
  3. Spend your time in your PvP corp making friends and learning how to actually fly for PvP.
  4. PvP does not have to be expensive That bears repeating, so: PvP DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXPENSIVE!!! I spend about 1 weekend a month funding my entire month's worth of PvP. Flying mostly T1 frigates is fun, requires a decent amount of skill. and fast tackle is never turned away from a roaming small gang. T2 frigates are not much more expensive in total. Even some of the pirate frigates are relatively inexpensive.
  5. Finally, and most importantly, go out and get blown up. After the fifth or sixth time, it stops being painful and you start learning from your mistakes.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#22 - 2015-06-04 19:44:59 UTC
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#23 - 2015-06-04 19:53:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Can you be more objective? My response has nothing to do with failures or excuses. The OP shouldn't feel bad if he is bored with the game. I've lived out in null and it is the same as it is in in high sec. You just have more EVE stuff like cynos, bubbles, cap ships, etc... LS and NS is the same as high sec, they just have little gimmicks. If the OP doesn't like the game, peer pressure isn't going to make him stay.


Allow me to highlight the part sof your post that are wrong.
Quote:
Nope there is nothing wrong with you, it is the game design. Currently, the game design favors blobs.
-snip-
EVE is a weird game but, it wont change, so I'd recommend finding something else to play


This is the same kind of 'advice' I got when i started EVE. It was dumb then and it's dumb now. The CEO of my 1st corp (a mission runner) told me "you can't go to low with less than 20 million skillpoints or null with less than40 million skill points". For a couple days I actually thought there as a game mechanics cap that wouldn't let you leave high sec without that many skill points.

Here is your game that that favors blobs, and here it is again without even a combat ship.
. If I could have one wish, it would be to have the people with failure mindsets keep their bad advice *(like PLAY SOMETHING ELSE) to themselves...or at least take their own advice and play something else.
Deimos UK
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-06-04 20:02:53 UTC
I have yet to receive bad advice on this forum post..

So far the link has been the most fruitful (the wtd link). Its really opened up ideas for me. I have wife duties now as the Mrs soaps have finished but I am def going to spend some time this weekend looking at scanning some sites down. Even if I just learn how to find WHs or cosmic whatyamacallems..

Thank you to all that have commented, I appreciate it and understand this forum post is nothing new and the question asked must be beyond tedious now.

Take care,


Nathan

PS: I will reply to the gent who sent me mail re small roaming destroyer PVP over the weekend and thank you for the offer.. I dont mind flying over tho, if only for the learning experience.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2015-06-04 20:18:08 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


Allow me to highlight the part sof your post that are wrong.
Quote:
Nope there is nothing wrong with you, it is the game design. Currently, the game design favors blobs.
-snip-
EVE is a weird game but, it wont change, so I'd recommend finding something else to play


This is the same kind of 'advice' I got when i started EVE. It was dumb then and it's dumb now. The CEO of my 1st corp (a mission runner) told me "you can't go to low with less than 20 million skillpoints or null with less than40 million skill points". For a couple days I actually thought there as a game mechanics cap that wouldn't let you leave high sec without that many skill points.

Here is your game that that favors blobs, and here it is again without even a combat ship.
. If I could have one wish, it would be to have the people with failure mindsets keep their bad advice *(like PLAY SOMETHING ELSE) to themselves...or at least take their own advice and play something else.

You can't read or did your little feelings get hurt? The OP said he's tried most of what EVE has to offer. If he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to. Spending time doing something you might enjoy is never bad advice. I never put any requirements on him. Stop being unreasonable. Stop looking like a fanatic.
Paranoid Loyd
#26 - 2015-06-04 20:27:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Aza Ebanu wrote:
The OP said he's tried most of what EVE has to offer.
He did not say this. This is how you interpreted it. Quite frankly, after your BS thread, your credibility for interpretation of reality is non-existent.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-06-04 20:30:37 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
The OP said he's tried most of what EVE has to offer.
He did not say this. This is how you interpreted it. Quite frankly after your BS thread your credibility for interpretation of reality is non-existent.

Oh look! Another fanatic.
Paranoid Loyd
#28 - 2015-06-04 20:31:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Oh look another negative nancy who doesn't have anything good to say about the game but still plays it for some reason.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-06-04 20:37:45 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
What is that called when you attack the person instead of the argument?

There isn't an argument here! Are arguing opinions? This makes you a fanatic. Oh well. I guess that's what you get from a guy named Paranoid...
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2015-06-04 20:38:41 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Oh look another negative nancy who doesn't have anything good to say about the game but still plays it for some reason.

Nice edit.
Jeb Rush
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-06-04 21:06:19 UTC
Deimos UK wrote:

Am I wrong, or is Eve a compilation of Gate Camps? this is all I have seen... This isn't meant as a provocative comment its a simple question as if this is the case then it restricts the "multiplayer" function you suggest I go for


You're not wrong, but it's a crude analogy. The function of gates, wormholes, stations, and any other point of interaction in space is just that: interaction. Content in EVE is largely driven by the players, either teaming up against one another, or teaming up against NPC ships. A lot of newbies and veterans alike get distracted from this by generating small fleets of their own accounts to substitute, either because their schedules are haphazard, or because they haven't yet found an outfit that matches their social milieu. As you found out, ganking alone isn't for everyone, but unless you're a station trader, chances are any other activity you want to pursue would turn out much more fun and rewarding if you tried to fly with other sort-of-like-minded players.

At the end of the day, mutli-boxing (love it or hate it) is here to stay, and it does open up a lot of doors even for multi-person operations. Just don't let that feeling of needing to cover your own bases and sustain your own little fleet distract you from getting into fleet with others. There's an entire meta-game in and outside the client which drives EVE and has allowed it to out-last even the biggest names in the MMO business. Do a bit of soul (and corporation) searching about what directions you 'might' want to go in and then get involved with someone.

Not many of us, myself included, were lucky or insightful enough to join a first-class outfit from the start. It is a bumpy ride joining a good corp, just like it's a bumpy ride making good friends IRL. People will screw you over if you're too generous, but you'll also miss out on most opportunities if you chose instead to exist as a hermit. Hopefully you'll find the happy medium that gets you on the way to more entertainment and fewer chores. Again, I don't even want to claim I am all the way there myself, but from what I have experienced thus far, it's worth it to try.

Good luck in your search.
Redael Rats
The Bannermen
The Initiative.
#32 - 2015-06-04 21:06:58 UTC
I was in that boat for a little while back and I took a break. I did the null sec thing and it drove me from the game. Wormholes are fun and have kept me going for abut a year now. Give it a try. You don't need anything to terribly expensive and it Def gets your blood going

For the Night is Dark and Full of Terror

Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
#33 - 2015-06-04 21:53:01 UTC
When in doubt, go slumming in Low. Works for me every. Single. Time.

♪ They'll always be bloodclaws to me ♫

Mandy Moo
Doomheim
#34 - 2015-06-04 22:05:12 UTC
Deimos UK wrote:
I fitted a Catalyst and managed to find an unsuspecting Procurer who I proceeded to Gank. I felt instantly bad, apologised in local and sent him the ISK to cover the loss (and then some!).


Quit the game. Seriously. If you can't kill someone then playing a PvP game with PvE elements it's not for you.

Find a goal. Have a direction in the game and you might find it more rewarding. If you "want" to goto 0.0 you will endure times when there are no targets. Same for FW. If you want to make ISK, grind missions until you get bored then find another way to make ISK and do that until you get bored.

You sound like you've tried everything, but not for long enough to see out the boring crap to get to the fun. Pick a goal and stick to it for a while.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#35 - 2015-06-04 22:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Deimos UK wrote:
but I am def going to spend some time this weekend looking at scanning some sites down. Even if I just learn how to find WHs or cosmic whatyamacallems..
It's why I keep a probe launcher on my Hawk and Vengeance for Big smile well for exploration combat sites anyway.
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Exploration_combat_sites_for_new_players
Recent probe tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cKc1AZZfmw
A Hawk fitting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3bYqRp0qYU
And other ships work well too. And good use for the new T3 destroyers (2/10 sites and above).

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#36 - 2015-06-04 23:21:58 UTC
Deimos UK wrote:
Hi guys,

I have three active subscriptions and I pay for all three off my Credit Card as I work full time and rarely have enough ISK to buy PLEX for all three.

...

Thank you in advance, apologies for the essay.

Nathan


The glib, mindless response is to say "make friends", "join a guild" etc.

But that won't solve one of the big problems with EVE.

Which is its asymmetry when it comes to PvP design. That is, zergs win, soloers lose. Only natural, everyone wants to win, and being in the biggest group assures that.

There is no place you can do 1 v 1 PvP, and there is no way to log in for 30 mins and just do a bit of PvP.

Which means for players that are mainly solo and just want to play for a lunch break battle, for example, then EVE is not the game for them.

Doesn't matter how many friends they make or corps they join.

This also becomes problematic for players that find this game by themselves and want to explore the game options that way. After a certain point EVE becomes a zergfest.

What might help is some NPC stations with Virtual Reality Arenas where players can queue and battle in in-game virtualities. A little Inceptionist.

Man, I must be bored posting on these forums again. :) Anyhow that's my thinking on how to help your lost soul.

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~

AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
#37 - 2015-06-05 06:49:16 UTC
Funny, your three accounts are almost exactly the same setup than my three accounts, and my history playing resembles yours as well, right up to the trying PvP/nullsec stuff and not being convinced. These days I'm mainly active in highsec mission running, mining, industry and the like with one alt living in lowsec.

When I need a change, there are several things that work well:


  • Change scenery: switch regions, build a new base of operations somewhere else, preferably way out the beaten path
  • Run some COSMOS missions, there's some of the most original game content in there
  • Do an epic arc you haven't done yet, or redo one (you can do them every 6 months)
  • Find a ship you haven't flown (any, really), try to build a good fit for it, testdrive it
  • Start EFT and review the fittings for your main workhorse ship(s)
  • Find a new agent to work for. Chose him/her by gut feeling, not efficiency. Personally I like to choose pretty girls Roll
  • Live like a nomad: pack your marauder, fly around aimlessly, discover stuff, run some missions on the way
  • Do a screenshot session: run a mission or two, take in the sights. Tip: L2/L3 missions are often way more original than L4s


I could go on. In my opinion, it's all about forgetting about profitability or efficiency. That's probably one of the reasons my industry ventures never really were profitable, but I don't think that has to be the point. I find that playing without expectations is quite liberating.

Lone wolf and nomad extraordinaire. eve.aeonoftime.com

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#38 - 2015-06-05 07:13:08 UTC
Hello OP

The problem you describe is typical for all the non compliant illegal miners in Highsec. As you can read in the New Halaima Code of Conduct:

And James 315 said: "Highsec miners may say they come for the ice and ore, but I give them what they really need: Purpose, dignity, structure, order, guidance, leadership. They ask what I am "saving" them from. I save the miners from themselves."

Let's think about this sentences for a moment..

You see, a Highsec miner by him/herself can never achieve happiness and fulfilment in EVE. He will try to isolate himself as much as he can, automate every bit of his gameplay until he looks to genuine players like the bot-aspirant he is.

This is why the New Order is here, to help you become a better miner. By following the Code, the law of Highsec, written by our Saviour James 315, you will become that better miner, a better player, even a better human being I believe.

Don't deny the sandbox, embrace it and do what every sane miner would do, send me 10mil ISK per miner char for your one year mining indulgence.

Standing by to receive your permit request.

You friend
Agent Ima Wreckyou
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#39 - 2015-06-05 07:29:30 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


Allow me to highlight the part sof your post that are wrong.
Quote:
Nope there is nothing wrong with you, it is the game design. Currently, the game design favors blobs.
-snip-
EVE is a weird game but, it wont change, so I'd recommend finding something else to play


This is the same kind of 'advice' I got when i started EVE. It was dumb then and it's dumb now. The CEO of my 1st corp (a mission runner) told me "you can't go to low with less than 20 million skillpoints or null with less than40 million skill points". For a couple days I actually thought there as a game mechanics cap that wouldn't let you leave high sec without that many skill points.

Here is your game that that favors blobs, and here it is again without even a combat ship.
. If I could have one wish, it would be to have the people with failure mindsets keep their bad advice *(like PLAY SOMETHING ELSE) to themselves...or at least take their own advice and play something else.

You can't read or did your little feelings get hurt? The OP said he's tried most of what EVE has to offer. If he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to. Spending time doing something you might enjoy is never bad advice. I never put any requirements on him. Stop being unreasonable. Stop looking like a fanatic.


Except that the OP didn't try most things EvE has to offer and your "advice" to leave the game was, to say the least, premature.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#40 - 2015-06-05 08:46:35 UTC
Join a wormhole corp! They're the best people. The tight nit nature of sharing POS life in hostile wormhole space has a way to get you friendly with them pretty quickly. Soon enough you'll be throwing yourself at randoms in small-fleet engagements, and will be having loads of fun! Plus its a great way to make lots of isk in the process, via sites and PI, and even mining if thats your thing, and you won't have to deal with those CODE scammer/morons either, or any of the other scum that inhabit known space.

Only downside is the constant risk of being blapped by randoms. But then, thats half the fun! Cool

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.