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Opportunities vs achievements

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#21 - 2015-06-04 15:56:14 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
MOAR reasons why I'm single...
Well, that and the fact that the number of females who aren't outright desperate that will put up with my bullshit are pretty well limited on this earth.


Your problem is that you are not nearly enough of an *******. Try harder.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2015-06-04 16:05:05 UTC
Sadly my online persona is the only persona I have that's a 'bad boy'. I'm a normal, mildly overweight, middle aged white dude with some antisocial tendencies that stem from environmental influences when I was younger. I'm better now, but during the journey of from there to here I've become a tad jaded. As such I've developed 'The Equation'... which is simply put, if the amount of bullshit I have to endure in order to get sex exceeds what I consider to be worth it, then things are coming to a full stop... immediately.

Strangely, many women I know seem to take issue with this. I have since pointed them towards the road.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Satan's Spawn
Satan's Enterprises
#23 - 2015-06-04 16:06:57 UTC
Personally I'd really like an option to remove this from littering up my screen. If you shrink it, it just adds to the icons, 'and' it's brighetr which distracts me.

Also ... please can we get an option to get rid of that stupid pop-upblog-square thing? Everytime I login it's in a different place and have to move it back, everytime. Really starting to p*** me off. grr.

:-)

kkthanxbye
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#24 - 2015-06-04 16:08:17 UTC
Posting in a stealth "a girl talked to me once" thread.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#25 - 2015-06-04 16:16:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
Harrison Tato wrote:
Posting in a stealth "a girl talked to me once" thread.

i'm just sober enough to not go full on 'Silence of The Lambs' in response to that.
Well played sir.
I shall have more beer and we shall rejoin shortly.

Edit: I lied. Does 'Please let me out of the basement, I swear I won't tell anyone!' Count as having a girl talk to you?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#26 - 2015-06-04 16:33:31 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
Posting in a stealth "a girl talked to me once" thread.

i'm just sober enough to not go full on 'Silence of The Lambs' in response to that.
Well played sir.
I shall have more beer and we shall rejoin shortly.

Edit: I lied. Does 'Please let me out of the basement, I swear I won't tell anyone!' Count as having a girl talk to you?

Depends on wether you spoke back or just gave her the hose again
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#27 - 2015-06-04 16:34:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
There may or may not have been a basket involved.
Basket, bucket. Lotion, hose.
Potato, dominix.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#28 - 2015-06-04 16:38:31 UTC
You know, between the busket and the fish boots you're out fifteen hundred bucks.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#29 - 2015-06-04 17:48:15 UTC
Alessienne Ellecon wrote:
Sorry, CCP, but this needs to be said

Or you could have just posted a link http://wowwiki.wikia.com/Achievement
N0! X
--->

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2015-06-05 00:34:10 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
The opportunities system is there to help folks realize what it is possible to do in the game and to provide some basic training/understanding in the process.

Achievements are about grinding to meet some arbitrary goal of dubious value. In EVE we call those "Masteries."


Would have been cheaper to make a video.....
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#31 - 2015-06-05 00:48:23 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
The opportunities system is there to help folks realize what it is possible to do in the game and to provide some basic training/understanding in the process.

Achievements are about grinding to meet some arbitrary goal of dubious value. In EVE we call those "Masteries."


I thought it was "spouse"

::ba dum tssshhh:: Nice one! Big smile
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#32 - 2015-06-05 06:54:17 UTC
Alessienne Ellecon wrote:
Sorry, CCP, but this needs to be said: the opportunities system is stupid. Granted, the starter tutorial was pretty annoying, but its replacement isn't all that better. It's just... doing a bunch of stuff. No rewards, no perks, no opening hidden missions, nothing. Now, if there was an achievement or trophy system, that would put a bit more spark into the game and give carebears something with which to challenge themselves. Some example achievements I thought of:


Worker Bee
Mine 100000m3 of ore in a Venture.

Speed Freak
Achieve a sublight speed of over 2000m/s.

Sticky Fingers
Steal from an owned jetcan without being shot.

Holey Diver
Explore 10 wormhole systems.

The Road Less Travelled
Visit the Solitude region.

Eggsplosion
Destroy a capsuleer's pod.

Blood On The Ice
Destroy an ice miner.

The Long Arm Of CONCORD
Pod a player with a bounty of over 2mil.

No Sell
Report 10 ISK spammers

The Little Ship That Could
Destroy a frigate or larger ship using a Velator, Reaper, Ibis or Impairor


Why the need for instant gratification? The game gives gratification by playing it with other people. That is the reward, not some silly trophy or title.
Lucy Lopez
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2015-06-05 10:40:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucy Lopez
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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#34 - 2015-06-05 10:48:52 UTC
More eye candy to augment the eye candy. Brilliant.

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#35 - 2015-06-05 12:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Alessienne Ellecon wrote:
Sorry, CCP, but this needs to be said: the opportunities system is stupid. Granted, the starter tutorial was pretty annoying, but its replacement isn't all that better. It's just... doing a bunch of stuff. No rewards, no perks, no opening hidden missions, nothing. Now, if there was an achievement or trophy system, that would put a bit more spark into the game and give carebears something with which to challenge themselves. Some example achievements I thought of:


Worker Bee
Mine 100000m3 of ore in a Venture.

Speed Freak
Achieve a sublight speed of over 2000m/s.

Sticky Fingers
Steal from an owned jetcan without being shot.

Holey Diver
Explore 10 wormhole systems.

The Road Less Travelled
Visit the Solitude region.

Eggsplosion
Destroy a capsuleer's pod.

Blood On The Ice
Destroy an ice miner.

The Long Arm Of CONCORD
Pod a player with a bounty of over 2mil.

No Sell
Report 10 ISK spammers

The Little Ship That Could
Destroy a frigate or larger ship using a Velator, Reaper, Ibis or Impairor


Why the need for instant gratification? The game gives gratification by playing it with other people. That is the reward, not some silly trophy or title.


Most people need that kind of artificial crap. This is why most MMOs are themeparks and why EVE can't appeal to a lot of people and remain EVE at the same time. Self motivated, self starting, curious (or even ruthless) go getter type people (such as sandbox gamers) will always be a minority compared to the "help me/hand me something" majority. As time goes on, it's getting worse.
IcyMind Arierep
The Soul Society
Fraternity.
#36 - 2015-06-05 13:30:48 UTC
Zoe Athame wrote:
Alessienne Ellecon wrote:
It's just... doing a bunch of stuff. No rewards, no perks, no opening hidden missions, nothing


That's the point.

Playing EVE is "just doing a bunch of stuff." They don't want to set false expectations. People used to finish the tutorial and then unsub when they couldn't find the next quest.



lol find the next quest ....

when I get people into eve , i tell them to forget eveything they know about MMO , i told them you go anywhere and take the risk that you want. I have few friends that stayed other left.
Aston Martin DB5
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2015-06-05 14:13:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Aston Martin DB5
Nothing interesting with Opportunities..... just spam popping up on your screen.

I want cookies and milk. Add rewards maybe?
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