EVE General Discussion

Null is safer for some people because Concord doesn't shoot first and ask questions later.

Sure, leave corp, get to system, scan down, approach, get back to corp, shoot. GG

That's hugely against the rules, last I heard. As in, first offense, perma ban.

but the defender is as commited as the aggressor. they have no choice, 2 day decs would encourage logging off for the timer. like it's not a long time to be offline don't ya think ?
but hey,, if it worked and encouraged better content and lolz i'd be all for it. i just don;t think it would work.

i've already explained why i think it's different. sure the current system would let you dec for 2 days then retract.. what you'd really like is a cheaper war dec. am i right?

I think your on to something here. It would also help counter all those complaints about "too much isk" being in the game. I think this will solve many of the problems.

People don't survive in nullsec?

This means, pending corp applications can't be accepted while the applicant is in space?

In general the mechanic is even more broken, if some simple steps of standard game mechanics get you banned.

Also NPC corps are not a group of players IMO, there was no choice involved, just a placeholder tag for players not in a (player) corp.

Can't rejoin a corp at war for 7 days.

Can't leave a corp in space.

No, they just have a limited scope, like most things. Your issue is that if you choose to wardec people there's some people you can't wardec because they choose to play in a way that isn't vulnerable to that. That's just the way it works, people don't play this game to be your entertainment.

It's not the reason they have immunity, it's just an explanation of why wardecs are broken. And yes, there's a justification, they choose to play in that way without the same tool as other players get in player corps and without being able to deploy in-space assets and in return they get to be immune to wardecs. It's a playstyle choice. One you obviously hate, but it's a valid choice nonetheless. Quite honestly, I don't see why people should be force out of that just so a handful of groups can wardec even more players who have no interest in fighting. This is a game. People play it for entertainment. Force players into being fodder for a minority group of what can only be described as griefers, and they will leave. it's really that simple.

Why? Why should people be force to play in the way that you want. I could demand all of highsec become nullsec so we can take over Jita, or that missions be removed because I don't like them. It's unreasonable because i's just me deciding that a whole category of players is irrelevant because they don't conform to what I like. If people want to choose to not be vulnerable to wardecs and are willing to live with the consequences of that choice, there's nothing wrong with that. I tell you what, I'll support the removal of NPC corps only alongside the complete removal of wardecs.

Well then you're obviously playing this game with your eyes shut. Anyone can tell you and even CCP have stated that the wardec system as it stands is broken. It's not designed as a mechanic for large PvP groups to farm endless numbers of noobs, and yet that's what its used for.

And no, EVE is not about no-choice PvP. In every situation you have a choice and evasion is one of those choices. If I choose to dock up and stay there, there's sod all you can do to stop me.

By the way, you're still seemingly ignorant to the fact that removing wardecs would simply make tens of thousands of single man corps. You wouldn't suddenly be able to wardec swathes of people and the complaints would roll in about how unfair it is that you wardec 1 person for 50m and they evade you. On top of which I assume you'd also want the removal of corp rolling, meaning that players who don't have alts to go have fun on and can;t actively dodge wardeccers in space would literally be trapped unable to play for a week whenever someone wardecs them.

At the end of the day, CCP aren;t likely to remove either corp rolling or NPC corps, and they're likely to replace wardecs with something related to the entosis link. I don't care enough about the unreasonably entitled players who tend to initiate wardecs to worry if they are sad about it.