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My suggestions are the best in the world: - Create a universal PvP system ability

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THXBYE
Elite War Squad
#101 - 2011-12-28 13:40:50 UTC  |  Edited by: THXBYE
Grey Azorria wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
I like it. Your attackable to anyone who has this option. Get to know people who do it, form up fleets from chat channels and such. Turn it on some days off the next and just go out a hunt with friends from time to time.

It would be fun.


It is fun...

...It is also called RvB which, contrary to popular belief, is not just n00bs in frigs Blink



Grey Azorria wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
I like it. Your attackable to anyone who has this option. Get to know people who do it, form up fleets from chat channels and such. Turn it on some days off the next and just go out a hunt with friends from time to time.

It would be fun.


It is fun...

...It is also called RvB which, contrary to popular belief, is not just n00bs in frigs Blink



Oh so funny, two teams fighting against each other, thats real ******* funny and not outdone yet.

Again:

RvB - I dont wanna join any corp, also no teams or groups to belong to.
Faction Warfare - I wanna be free and a "villain" everyone against everyone, no teams. Also wanna ride free and go anywhere at anytime.
Can jet - If you think this is pvp gtfo and go play pokemon.


What this changes? Nothing, it wont affect those that do not want to participate.
What this adds? A LOT. In between:
- An extremely exciting play experience.
- A huge amount of real pvp opportunities
- A meaning to standings in highsec

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#102 - 2011-12-28 13:46:28 UTC
THXBYE wrote:
Im not gonna argue with idiots that cant understand or answer along the same lines.
…along the same lines as what? Your abuse-laden and nonsenical lack of argumentation? Good thing you're the only one using that around here, then. If you can't argue your point without falling back on personal attacks, your point is worthless. Try showing that it is actually worth something, if you can…
Quote:
All the pvp mechanics already mentioned in this thread, I answered to them all explaining how it was totally different from this,
…and the problem remains: what you're suggesting will not do what you want to do because as those other mechanisms show, people aren't interested. There are plenty of ways to get into fights and be a target — if you (and others) don't want to use them, then that's pretty indicative of how little interest there is in your idea.

You need to address this fact.
Quote:
What this changes? Nothing, it wont affect those that do not want to participate.
…and by that, you are showing that your idea has no legs. It is, by your own account, completely pointless.
THXBYE
Elite War Squad
#103 - 2011-12-28 13:50:08 UTC
Tippia wrote:
THXBYE wrote:
Im not gonna argue with idiots that cant understand or answer along the same lines.
…along the same lines as what? Your abuse-laden and nonsenical lack of argumentation? Good thing you're the only one using that around here, then. If you can't argue your point without falling back on personal attacks, your point is worthless. Try showing that it is actually worth something, if you can…
Quote:
All the pvp mechanics already mentioned in this thread, I answered to them all explaining how it was totally different from this,
…and the problem remains: what you're suggesting will not do what you want to do because as those other mechanisms show, people aren't interested. There are plenty of ways to get into fights and be a target — if you (and others) don't want to use them, then that's pretty indicative of how little interest there is in your idea.

You need to address this fact.
Quote:
What this changes? Nothing, it wont affect those that do not want to participate.
…and by that, you are showing that your idea has no legs. It is, by your own account, completely pointless.


Again:

RvB - I dont wanna join any corp, also no teams or groups to belong to.
Faction Warfare - I wanna be free and a "villain" everyone against everyone, no teams. Also wanna ride free and go anywhere at anytime.
Can jet - If you think this is pvp gtfo and go play pokemon.


What this changes? Nothing, it wont affect those that do not want to participate.
What this adds? A LOT. In between:
- An extremely exciting play experience.
- A huge amount of real pvp opportunities
- A meaning to standings in highsec

If you have anything to add to this, let me know.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#104 - 2011-12-28 13:52:11 UTC
THXBYE wrote:
Again:
…you failed to address any of the points and failed to provide any kind of argument.

Could you try to do that instead of repeating your irrelevant gibberish?
THXBYE
Elite War Squad
#105 - 2011-12-28 13:54:47 UTC
Tippia wrote:
THXBYE wrote:
Again:
…you failed to address any of the points and failed to provide any kind of argument.

Could you try to do that instead of repeating your irrelevant gibberish?


Yes I failed.

Here for non fail:

RvB - I dont wanna join any corp, also no teams or groups to belong to.
Faction Warfare - I wanna be free and a "villain" everyone against everyone, no teams. Also wanna ride free and go anywhere at anytime.
Can jet - If you think this is pvp gtfo and go play pokemon.


What this changes? Nothing, it wont affect those that do not want to participate.
What this adds? A LOT. In between:
- An extremely exciting play experience.
- A huge amount of real pvp opportunities
- A meaning to standings in highsec


Universal PvP System Mode: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=38634 In Game Laws, Fines and Taxes: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=36124 Stations and NPC Services Costs: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=39038
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#106 - 2011-12-28 13:56:44 UTC
THXBYE wrote:
Yes I failed.

Here for non fail:
…you still failed to address any of the points and failed to provide any kind of argument.

Could you try to do that instead of repeating your irrelevant gibberish?
THXBYE
Elite War Squad
#107 - 2011-12-28 14:19:40 UTC
So to clean things out and make it easier to picture, heres a resume:

Mechanics answered in this thread:

RvB
- I dont want to belong to any corp/alliance/team
- I dont wanna join any corp, also no teams or groups to belong to
(RvB was created specifically to have something close to this. PvP in highsec)

Faction Warefare
- I dont want to belong to any team
- I wanna be free and a "villain" everyone against everyone
- I wanna ride free and go anywhere at anytime

Lowsec
- I dont wanna leave highsec
- I dont wanna deal with security status

Can Jet
- Jita IV - IV


PROS

- One more thing you can do in EvE.
- Dynamic Highsec real PvP, with hunting and survival and also the surprise element.
- Easy access to what real PvP is to people living in highsec that do not want to belong to any corp or alliance or leave highsec for now.
- A form of living, be a villain.
- An extremely exciting play experience.
- A huge amount of real pvp opportunities.
- A meaning to standings in highsec.
- Kills the boredom to many people in game bringing a new breath taking activity for a moment or a form of playing the game at all times.
- Connects a little bit more 0.0 experience and highsec, giving players an enthusiastic experience.
- One more way to create fights and ships and modules and ammo consumption bringing healthy activity to the economy.


CONS

- N/A
(No one in this thread yet mentioned a single one)


Example:

- You are bored, you turn on this option and grab your rifter and go, you travel a couple jumps and you see a red in local, use your scan, etc etc etc..
- Be missioning or ratting or mining or doing w/e and having to check local etc.. (0.0 feeling, and also good for new pilots)
- Ride on my own or with a couple friends, and look for valid targets in systems.
- Or you can just live with it ON and be a villain permently

Once this is implemented:

- You wanna try it? Use it.
- You dont like it and are against? Dont use it.



Its just an addition to eve, is not a change, this is not supposed to fix anything.

All the pvp mechanics already mentioned in this thread, I answered to them all explaining how they were all different from this.
If you have a real CONS as to why this shouldnt be implemented, feel free to post. Im really interesting (even I am trying to think of one) to know if theres any possible cons.


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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#108 - 2011-12-28 23:55:44 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
THXBYE wrote:

Faction Warfare - I wanna be free and a "villain" everyone against everyone, no teams. Also wanna ride free and go anywhere at anytime.




So you want to be a Pirate without the Sec Status hit? You want to be able to fight people without CONCORD intervention. LowSec is Highsec with no CONCORD intervention in fights. Now you want to do that against people who didn't attack you without a Sec Status hit, aka the downside to ganking someone.

The people who actually want the type of life you describe live in Lowsec as Pirates or RvB (ignore their fleets and shoot random hostiles).

One of the PITA parts of getting fights on roams is finding targets. Why do you want that compounded by hundreds of non-targets to sift through.

Your idea will never give you juicy kills because nobody in their right mind flies anything juicy into unneeded danger without some benefit (i.e. Rewards better than l4s).

  • You have failed to clearly state what your goals with this idea are.
  • You have failed to show how those goals will improve EVE Online.
  • You have failed to demonstrate how your idea will achieve those goals.
  • You have done all of this failing in the most abrasive and annoying manner possible.
  • Your portrait has either chipmunk cheeks or Jaw Cancer, not sure which
  • So in summary, you have failed. A Lot.
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    "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
    Sephiroth Clone VII
    Brothers of Tyr
    Goonswarm Federation
    #109 - 2011-12-29 02:39:17 UTC
    interesting idea

    though redundant and not totally necessary with game mechanics that allow fighting already.

    If you want to always get fights, join a corp that always wardecs or get wardecked, make war mutual. No concord intervention.

    Or... go into low sec or npc null sec space, no need for organizing war decks just shot anyone you please.

    the only thing this new idea adds is being able to select constant pvp in a major trade hub so can more easily find cheep ships and refit, and nearly with anyone who wants fight them regardless of corp/alliance.
    ShahFluffers
    Ice Fire Warriors
    #110 - 2011-12-29 03:42:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
    All I'm getting from the OP is this:

    "Mommy, I want to ride my bicycle around... but I don't want to go out into the street because I like the backyard better. Can we get a bicycle track built in the backyard so I don't have to go into the street?"


    What you are asking for already exists in some form. Your idea is redundant and only serves to bring more "features" to high-sec... which in turn does not encourage people to spread out to low-sec and null-sec.

    -1

    How did you Veterans start?
    THXBYE
    Elite War Squad
    #111 - 2011-12-29 06:21:58 UTC
    Bump FTW

    Please let me know what you guys think.

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    Nestara Aldent
    Citimatics
    #112 - 2011-12-29 08:54:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Nestara Aldent
    THXBYE wrote:
    Bump FTW

    Please let me know what you guys think.


    I think you're trolling.

    There exists RvB already, as other people in the tread have pointed out already, which serve exactly the same purpose as well as faction warfare. Implemeting on top of that another faction mechanic is anti-immersive and game breaking.

    Hell, "Villains of the East"? What does that mean, exactly, and how it can be connected to the game fiction? And it serves no purpose because we have RvB and FW already.

    If you wanna feel like a villain against everybody else, pvp solo in closest low/null. You'll be served instantly.
    GavinCapacitor
    CaeIum Incognitum
    #113 - 2011-12-29 15:57:51 UTC
    THXBYE wrote:
    T' Elk wrote:
    Best trollthread ever.
    11/10

    Not at all bro.
    Being serious, this is a great idea and I still havent seen one single reasonable answer to it in this thread other than a bunch forum losers station afkers flawed stupidity.


    Calling people bro is too obvious, I'm going to have to dock some points. 5/10