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Quick l3 blitzer...
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#1 - 2015-06-04 02:48:43 UTC
I can fly Caldari and Amar T2's and the Tengu.

I haven't flown a lot of cruisers in a long time. The Sacrilege looks a lot more fun now but it looks like I would have to speed tank it. But whatever I get needs a good prop mod for faster times anway. Or is Tengu the best bet?

I would consider Gila but it looks like it only gets a medium drone bonus.

Someone said machariel, but are BS's disallowed in some level 3's?

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Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-06-04 02:54:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Drone boats are too slow, as you either trade having to stay close to your sentries or having to wait for your drones to fly to the target. Rail boats are the most efficient blitzers ignoring Mach.

Rail Tengu seems to be best followed closely by Proteus and Deimos is good if you are on a budget.

BSes are allowed in most, it's not really an issue.

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2015-06-04 03:44:01 UTC
The Gila's medium drone bonus is something special.... like alligators on crack special. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.
Thing is a monster that can pack over 700 dps and tank almost as well as a BS... all the while moving speedy.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-06-04 03:49:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
The gila is a great boat however, when talking about blitzing you want to apply your DPS to only that which is necessary and GTFO, in quite a few missions the targets are a considerable distance away, with a rail boat I can kill most if not all of that which needs to be killed before your drones even reach their first target. We are admittedly talking about seconds here, but when you are grinding level 3s for whatever reason you really want to do it as quickly as possible and the seconds add up to minutes and eventually hours.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2015-06-04 04:37:57 UTC
someone had a pretty good rail tengu. Not sure if I copy/pasted this or just made it on my own. although max dps, warp speed, and projection doesn't leave much to the imagination.

warp in, blap, warp out. ceptor warp speeds, up to 13 au/s with ascendency implants. last time I blitzed 3s it was in an ishtar with just a medium rep for tank, so I wouldn't be too worried about that, although can pretty easily drop a mid for a hardener. Although not sure how well it deals with elite frigs that get under the guns. might want a mobile depot and some webs.

[Tengu, l3 blitz]
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Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
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Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#6 - 2015-06-04 13:44:23 UTC
I would assume an Eagle would do as well.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#7 - 2015-06-04 14:10:51 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
The Gila's medium drone bonus is something special.... like alligators on crack special. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.
Thing is a monster that can pack over 700 dps and tank almost as well as a BS... all the while moving speedy.


+1. i laugh when people dismiss those "medium drones" not understanding that the Gila's bonuses turn those things into npc Battleship chewing monsters.

And they are tough. My 'Afk mission' Gila uses Faction drones (they are extra tanky) and those little used drone rigs that increase tank (FoF missiles for giggles also). I've used them to "DRONE TANK" missions like Buzzkill and the Blockade, it's almost unbalanced Cool
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2015-06-04 14:15:13 UTC
Lloyd gets it, and his point is sound.
I'm just enamored with the thing because I tried one out recently and was all like 'OMG this thing is like a PEZ dispenser for wargasms!'
I look forward to putting mine into play versus our future hapless.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#9 - 2015-06-04 14:17:26 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
someone had a pretty good rail tengu. Not sure if I copy/pasted this or just made it on my own. although max dps, warp speed, and projection doesn't leave much to the imagination.

warp in, blap, warp out. ceptor warp speeds, up to 13 au/s with ascendency implants. last time I blitzed 3s it was in an ishtar with just a medium rep for tank, so I wouldn't be too worried about that, although can pretty easily drop a mid for a hardener. Although not sure how well it deals with elite frigs that get under the guns. might want a mobile depot and some webs.

[Tengu, l3 blitz]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor



Mine is simlar, except I used 3 faction Gyrostabs and a nanofiber, and a Target Painter instead of a Sebo. For elite frigs I just turn on the MWD and set orbit to like 30 on them, they break orbit and I paint and blap them. Rarely happens though, most lvl 3s the rats are not even close to you on warp in.
Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2015-06-04 17:34:03 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gyrostabs
You really should try Mag Stabs. Blink

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#11 - 2015-06-05 03:38:45 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gyrostabs
You really should try Mag Stabs. Blink


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Bitchin' Betty
Evil Guinea Pigs
#12 - 2015-06-05 21:49:10 UTC
Macharial is the best blitzer for lvl 3's. You can hit out to 60km with 800ac's if you have to and still insta pop frigs with a group of three guns
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#13 - 2015-06-06 06:35:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Chainsaw Plankton
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mine is simlar, except I used 3 faction Gyrostabs and a nanofiber, and a Target Painter instead of a Sebo. For elite frigs I just turn on the MWD and set orbit to like 30 on them, they break orbit and I paint and blap them. Rarely happens though, most lvl 3s the rats are not even close to you on warp in.


at range I'm very certain about the ability to destroy frigs, more wondering about what happens if they get a web and a point. then again from my memory in lv3s points are very rare. I also don't really remember spawn distances as I haven't done 3s in forever, and last time I did was in an ishtar which does very well vs frigs with bonused drones.

Bitchin' Betty wrote:
Macharial is the best blitzer for lvl 3's. You can hit out to 60km with 800ac's if you have to and still insta pop frigs with a group of three guns

but yea, A mach is probably best. thing is damn fast with 3x hyperspatial rigs

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Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#14 - 2015-06-07 20:57:13 UTC
I want to try a zealot for them eventually, comes into my "oh balls I missed stuff" training plan. Don't care if it's effective really, just want to try it, rail deimos was fun for grinding standings for about 3 mins but meh, grinding.

Will try an armor pulsemare in a few weeks too for giggles. Need to wait for a weekday off work when I have time and energy. Won't be better than a mach cause of the warp speed but might be fun for a few mins and it's only a few hundred mil.
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#15 - 2015-06-08 23:31:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
someone had a pretty good rail tengu. Not sure if I copy/pasted this or just made it on my own. although max dps, warp speed, and projection doesn't leave much to the imagination.

warp in, blap, warp out. ceptor warp speeds, up to 13 au/s with ascendency implants. last time I blitzed 3s it was in an ishtar with just a medium rep for tank, so I wouldn't be too worried about that, although can pretty easily drop a mid for a hardener. Although not sure how well it deals with elite frigs that get under the guns. might want a mobile depot and some webs.

[Tengu, l3 blitz]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor



That's my fit, except I went over the top for max dps and used 4 Fed. MFSs.

If the op would have looked, he would have found a couple of posts on this topic already. I will not recap it all.

Many ships can do L3s fast, some can do them very fast.

But blitzing the mission, which means just doing what is necessary to complete a mission, is not the same as BLITZING THE MISSION.

"Warp in, blap, warp out", just as Chainsaw said. (The timer is running, we're counting seconds here.)

Above Tengu hits 9.32 warp speed without ascendency implants.

Above Tengu also beat Stoic's Mack in just about all the missions he posted in his spread sheet. (17/20? don't remember exactly).

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Paranoid Loyd
#16 - 2015-06-08 23:37:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Ion Kirst wrote:
I will not recap it all.
I linked a good majority of it in my first reply.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-06-08 23:45:22 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Lloyd gets it, and his point is sound.
I'm just enamored with the thing because I tried one out recently and was all like 'OMG this thing is like a PEZ dispenser for wargasms!'
I look forward to putting mine into play versus our future hapless.

The Gila is truly lovely but I feel the strengths of the Guristas ships is in combat exploration and wormhole PVE, not mission PVE.
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#18 - 2015-06-09 00:13:56 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Ion Kirst wrote:
I will not recap it all.
I linked a good majority of it in my first reply.



Yes, thank you.

________

I relocated to a new place when I started my "Tengu vs Mach" blitzing. There I had a choice of 3 agents that gave out L3 missions. I am still there now, where my alt runs the missions. Several missions can be done in just a short amount of time.

I have become hooked on BLITZING L3s, and can't see going back to the "old" way.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#19 - 2015-06-09 23:55:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrak
Hey.

I asked a similar question in another thread and was pointed here.

Despite having a great combat pilot he is unable to fly T3's.

Can I ask peoples opinions on how a T3 BC with the large guns would fare?

My other combat pilot can fly and use the Minnie or the Amaar versions and I was thinking about just pulling range and hitting from miles out with a strong DPS, thus nullifying the weakness that is the poor tracking.

I haven't run L3 missions for ..... well..... I simply can not remember ever running them. I'm trying to grind station standings and am not interested in loot. I just wanna get in and get out. But I dont know how many of them require you to collect something you have destroyed...... obviously a little worried about the aforementioned glass cannons.

Regards

Barrak
Paranoid Loyd
#20 - 2015-06-10 00:31:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
There are too many small ships for an attack BC to be useful as tracking becomes an issue, pulling range works but causes the missions to take a lot more time, a combat BC would be better, HACs work OK as well if you can't do T3.

Haven't tried it but Cynabal should work quite well also.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
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