EVE General Discussion

I wish this kind of thread would stop.

Even if some people are RPerrorists-slash-Dicks about it, Ganking is legit, Awoxing is legit, Spying is legit, Heisting is legit.

In that precise case, considering the tale of what happened, what the mole did was in fact downright commendable: exploiting and/ or oblivious CEOs need to DIE.

Check your evemail.

Before the election results:

http://i.imgur.com/trkZVUL.png

I believed it was a bad idea three years ago

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70255

Before Mittens outted himself as the scum that he is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw

I ran for CSM largely because I looked at so many of the candidates and thought, "Better me than any of them whispering in CCP's ears." Not because I am a particularly good idea but I think that I would do less harm.

... is a cult.
Had them coming and trying to tell me about their New Order and such, how they are good for EVE and all the other justifications they can come up with for shooting weak targets.

It is a fight, a fight the miner lost the second he undocked without support, without a plan to survive, and without relevant game mechanics knowledge.

I fly pirate battleships for missions (Mach, Rattlesnake, Nightmare) and Incursions (Mach and Vindicator). I know when I pull up my fitting screen to fit for a mission that there is a price/cost threshold that if i cross it I'm risking a 'gank for profit'. I know that when I am doing missions and the mission takes me out of system, that whatever I do I want to not be afk when I jump through a gate, and i know i want to make damn sure my hardeners and DC are on as soon as possible after I initiate warp in the new system, because that gate (and the station undock) is my biggest point of vulnerability.

I know that when I'm in an incursion I want to shoot PAST my anchor and anchor on him on his side that is AWAY from the warp in point (so that there is at least one potential gank target, the anchor guy, between me and the warp in point, like the old joke says, I don't have to outrun the bear, i just have to outrun YOU lol).

So forth and so on. Every second I'm in game and in high sec, I'm "fighting" against the ganker (and scammer and awoxxer) types, with my mind and preventive action. This is why my total loss list against high sec gankers after playing this game since June 21, 2007 (8 years in a couple weeks) are 2 empty shuttles and 1 empty pod.

It's the inability of some to understand that "gameplay" in eve starts at the login screen that creates the conditions where groups like Code can even exist in the 1st place.



It's simply not in their nature. Anyone who would choose the EVE version mining as a leisure activity are probably not the types to seek out and cooperate with others except in extreme circumstances. They are mentally a lot like the old wild west prospector that goes out into the wildness alone to seek his fortune. Old Wild west prospectors likewise had a super high mortality rate lol.

Remember the 'dont awox me brah!' switch? Well, just wait for the cry-us release where CCP introduces some great new additional features!

- CEO's can turn off all external communications, to prevent spies from using eve mail to inform those outside of corp about intel
- CEO's can tag all assets in corp hangars with a virus, that will cause the asset to explode (and ship with it) at the press of a button -- no more theft!
- CEO's can turn on a new dont-gank-me-brah! switch, which uses whimsical new sleeper technology to prevent CODE members from opening fire on a members ship in hisec!

Surely we can all look forward to more great content-creation features like these to come, with the input of all our illustrious guardians-of-the-sandbox CSM'S!

HAIL BOB..er...BARNEY!

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As I've been saying, the real problem is a deep seated and learned form of risk aversion that says "we must be safe from all harm, even video game harm".

Risk-Aversion isn't an issue, it's a symptom. It's just what the western world is coming to. And apparently, not just the West lol.

I think the virus will actually return the ship to the CEO's personal hangar instead of destroying it.

EVE is not an arena game. What you are doing here is exhibiting a misplaced sense of 'fairness' where it doesn't belong.

In every encounter between people in EVE, you have at least 2 people, sitting at a computer, playing a game that both of them know has un-consensual pvp. The fact that one of them ignores this reality (that pvp can happen anywhere) has zero to do with anything, he was still a guy or girl sitting in front of a computer who 'lost' an encounter with some other human being. At the end of the day, getting ganked is no different than losing a consensual 1v1 pvp fight, there is no such thing as the 'innocent miner minding his own business' because that player choose to play EVE rather than a protected themepark style game.



Dumb animals don't play EVE, humans (the vast majority of which are adults) do. If you get blown up over and over in the same manner and get mad about it, it is true that this person should not be gaming. But that doesn't take away from the fact that in an encounter of 2 human beings, one won and one lost.

Where I'm from, a rational and mature adult congratulates the victor in a situation where they are beaten, it's called sportsmanship. If you don't want to have to do that (and I sure as hell don't) either don't compete (in this case, means don't log in) or do compete and play to win (in my case and the case of all PVErs, that means don't let them gank you). I play to win, and have done so for 8 years.


TL;DR, i;ll restate: It's the inability of some to understand that "gameplay" in eve starts at the login screen that creates the conditions where groups like Code can even exist in the 1st place.

New saying: if gankers are chasing us, I don't have to outrun the gankers i just have to out run YOU. Now where did i put those Ascendency implants???

Who needs to outrun when you can out-think?

The mission runner who falls for the old ninja salvager, the afk miners and, often overloaded, haulers etc aren't hard to out-think.

On a side note I was considering scanning other haulers while I do my rounds and feeding details of any juicy ones to some nefarious types I know, for shiggles.