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Noragen Neirfallas
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#21 - 2015-06-02 15:49:56 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Look, there are basically two options here:

1) You can give your ISK to a "mercenary" so they can buy shiny new ships to blow up stuff and enjoy the game. I am sure they will be happy to take your ISK, I doubt however that they will guard you while you are AFK mining or hauling stuff in Highsec.

2) You can sit together with your corp mates and read up on how EVE actually works. Inform yourself what you can do with your friends, try to create a strategy to defend yourself. I am sure there are many players in many places who will help you with this and give you advise. Don't get me wrong, you will probably not win, you will all die horribly. But it was never cheaper to put together a nice little t1 fleet which actually has a chance. And you will learn from the experience and become better and die again in spaceship battle. You will actually get something for your ISK because it will be a lot of fun, even if you lose, I promise.


this is bad advice, dont fight them or they will wardec you again and again because they can just roflstomp you easily

Because I tell then to play the game and have fun? I mean it's not like they lose something. T1 ships are cheap and you can do something interesting for a change.

I write this because this is what happened to me. I was in a carebear corp for two weeks, it was boring, nothing happened. Then we got deced by some "bad guys" and the fun started. We always lost, but I learned a lot and it was the first time it felt like what I call EVE today. It was simply exciting and new and felt like a game not a mining simulator.

Most stories about eve from players who don't play anymore in the Aussie gaming communities I'm a part of are they quit because it's too boring and farming in wow was more intresting then this. Which is 100% true if all you do is mine and/or PvE. This game has some of the worst entry level PvE of any I've ever played. the real trick is to nonconsentually disrupt the tedium at some point. if it consumes you with the need for vengence then we have
A - added another valuable player to the game for some time to come
B - added content for ourselves as the 'wronged' party attempts to seek out their revenge. I gotta say I've lost cont on the number of people who have taken this option for myself. Died. And convoed me asking why they still can't kill me. Most drop the vendetta having acquired valuable fitting and/or tactical knowledge and quite often a new ship anyways. Some actually succeed using fit I gave them... That's always rewarding and yet some how I feel like I could have toned down that gnosis fit that one time...

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#22 - 2015-06-02 15:52:37 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Look, there are basically two options here:

1) You can give your ISK to a "mercenary" so they can buy shiny new ships to blow up stuff and enjoy the game. I am sure they will be happy to take your ISK, I doubt however that they will guard you while you are AFK mining or hauling stuff in Highsec.

2) You can sit together with your corp mates and read up on how EVE actually works. Inform yourself what you can do with your friends, try to create a strategy to defend yourself. I am sure there are many players in many places who will help you with this and give you advise. Don't get me wrong, you will probably not win, you will all die horribly. But it was never cheaper to put together a nice little t1 fleet which actually has a chance. And you will learn from the experience and become better and die again in spaceship battle. You will actually get something for your ISK because it will be a lot of fun, even if you lose, I promise.


this is bad advice, dont fight them or they will wardec you again and again because they can just roflstomp you easily

Because I tell then to play the game and have fun? I mean it's not like they lose something. T1 ships are cheap and you can do something interesting for a change.

I write this because this is what happened to me. I was in a carebear corp for two weeks, it was boring, nothing happened. Then we got deced by some "bad guys" and the fun started. We always lost, but I learned a lot and it was the first time it felt like what I call EVE today. It was simply exciting and new and felt like a game not a mining simulator.


its exactly what i would do if i wardecced a industry corp, if they fought back then they are giving me content, i like content so i would dec again to get more content, and its easy content so its even better, best way to deal with wardeccers is not give them content, hense why low/null/wh corps just ignore wardecs and hense why wardeccers are too pussy to fight the low/null/wh corps they wardec. an industry corp is really just cannon fodder for mercs, merely target practice, you know that.

allbeit have fun in the game but pvp with mercs is pretty frustrating

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#23 - 2015-06-02 15:57:09 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Look, there are basically two options here:

1) You can give your ISK to a "mercenary" so they can buy shiny new ships to blow up stuff and enjoy the game. I am sure they will be happy to take your ISK, I doubt however that they will guard you while you are AFK mining or hauling stuff in Highsec.

2) You can sit together with your corp mates and read up on how EVE actually works. Inform yourself what you can do with your friends, try to create a strategy to defend yourself. I am sure there are many players in many places who will help you with this and give you advise. Don't get me wrong, you will probably not win, you will all die horribly. But it was never cheaper to put together a nice little t1 fleet which actually has a chance. And you will learn from the experience and become better and die again in spaceship battle. You will actually get something for your ISK because it will be a lot of fun, even if you lose, I promise.


this is bad advice, dont fight them or they will wardec you again and again because they can just roflstomp you easily

Because I tell then to play the game and have fun? I mean it's not like they lose something. T1 ships are cheap and you can do something interesting for a change.

I write this because this is what happened to me. I was in a carebear corp for two weeks, it was boring, nothing happened. Then we got deced by some "bad guys" and the fun started. We always lost, but I learned a lot and it was the first time it felt like what I call EVE today. It was simply exciting and new and felt like a game not a mining simulator.


its exactly what i would do if i wardecced a industry corp, if they fought back then they are giving me content, i like content so i would dec again to get more content, and its easy content so its even better, best way to deal with wardeccers is not give them content, hense why low/null/wh corps just ignore wardecs and hense why wardeccers are too ***** to fight the low/null/wh corps they wardec. an industry corp is really just cannon fodder for mercs, merely target practice, you know that.

allbeit have fun in the game but pvp with mercs is pretty frustrating

Those elite NULL/WH/LS fits must be what keeps them from killing you

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Lan Wang
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Safety. Net
#24 - 2015-06-02 16:00:44 UTC
thats hit the nail on the head, not even a marauder stood a chance what chance does a t1 cruiser stand lol.

shame you guys never leave highsec/undock to fight your targets

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#25 - 2015-06-02 16:16:51 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
thats hit the nail on the head, not even a marauder stood a chance what chance does a t1 cruiser stand lol.

shame you guys never leave highsec/undock to fight your targets

Yeah I suppose any t1 cruiser fit with cargo expanders would indeed get dunked. I gotta say tho that is defiantly the most innovative way to haul an assault frig I've seen under a wardec

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#26 - 2015-06-02 16:31:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
Lan Wang wrote:
its exactly what i would do if i wardecced a industry corp, if they fought back then they are giving me content, i like content so i would dec again to get more content, and its easy content so its even better, best way to deal with wardeccers is not give them content, hense why low/null/wh corps just ignore wardecs and hense why wardeccers are too ***** to fight the low/null/wh corps they wardec. an industry corp is really just cannon fodder for mercs, merely target practice, you know that.

allbeit have fun in the game but pvp with mercs is pretty frustrating

Are there others game besides EVE where people discourage other players from playing the game and from having fun? People like you are the reason why so many quit out of boredom.

Usually such a wardec ends with both parties having fun and new friendships and stuff after all this is a game. Except if you cry about every loss, then they will come back to make you cry more because we don't like bad losers in this game.

Evil RatKid
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#27 - 2015-06-02 17:45:15 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
its exactly what i would do if i wardecced a industry corp, if they fought back then they are giving me content, i like content so i would dec again to get more content, and its easy content so its even better, best way to deal with wardeccers is not give them content, hense why low/null/wh corps just ignore wardecs and hense why wardeccers are too ***** to fight the low/null/wh corps they wardec. an industry corp is really just cannon fodder for mercs, merely target practice, you know that.

allbeit have fun in the game but pvp with mercs is pretty frustrating

Are there others game besides EVE where people discourage other players from playing the game and from having fun? People like you are the reason why so many quit out of boredom.

Usually such a wardec ends with both parties having fun and new friendships and stuff after all this is a game. Except if you cry about every loss, then they will come back to make you cry more because we don't like bad losers in this game.


hmmm how do you come to that conclusion? you think because i chose not to fight mercs that im bored, or i advise an industry player who has like 30k sp in gunnery to not bother taking a fight against a merc with 50mil sp in a t3? not really id rather play the game how i want to play the game not how a merc wants me to play, if you mercs and gankers are soo interested in gettin good fights then why dont you travel down to low and null to fight the pvp corps you wardec?, thats it though your not looking for good fights your looking for easy kills to pad the killboard do you honstly think people find losing ships to mercs who have neutral logi and more firepower and who dock up when they know they cant win is fun?

no i think you will find alot of people leave eve because of yourself, all the tears on the forums are mostly derived from you and your alliance, so your the only one here who actually makes people quit the game, does your ganking usually end with hugs and friendship, after you "advise" them of how they failed at eve?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#28 - 2015-06-02 17:57:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
thats hit the nail on the head, not even a marauder stood a chance what chance does a t1 cruiser stand lol.

shame you guys never leave highsec/undock to fight your targets

Yeah I suppose any t1 cruiser fit with cargo expanders would indeed get dunked. I gotta say tho that is defiantly the most innovative way to haul an assault frig I've seen under a wardec


yeah i guess your more efficient in highsec huh i mean when marmite roam to null stuff like this usually happens, oh no

ooft the warp core stabs didnt help there huh

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#29 - 2015-06-02 22:37:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Lan Wang wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
thats hit the nail on the head, not even a marauder stood a chance what chance does a t1 cruiser stand lol.

shame you guys never leave highsec/undock to fight your targets

Yeah I suppose any t1 cruiser fit with cargo expanders would indeed get dunked. I gotta say tho that is defiantly the most innovative way to haul an assault frig I've seen under a wardec


yeah i guess your more efficient in highsec huh i mean when marmite roam to null stuff like this usually happens, oh no

ooft the warp core stabs didnt help there huh

Nice find you only had to go back a year to find that scrub. Where as mine was on your first page and was your alliances most recent high sec encounter. Do me a favour once you wipe away your 'high sec is too hard' tears you were giving the Code. rep look at the most recent Marmite (or FA since it was their kill I linked) activity in null/low/wh. I look forward to the result. If you don't I'll check it myself in a few when I get to a comp

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#30 - 2015-06-03 08:22:41 UTC
yeah that wasnt your kill so sounds like your just glory hunting...Cool yeah please find something good in your reports id like to see it because i cant really find anything special from where im looking, i was given the Code., what does that even mean?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#31 - 2015-06-03 09:18:33 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
yeah that wasnt your kill so sounds like your just glory hunting...Cool yeah please find something good in your reports id like to see it because i cant really find anything special from where im looking, i was given the Code., what does that even mean?

I'll assume english isn't your first language here for this reply

Code. rep was referring to the well... Code. rep that you were crying to.

No glory hunting on my part simply pointing out that Highseccers aren't too scared to fight your lads. As shown by that kill. It's more you're too afraid to fight the Highseccers. See they are often as not paid to keep you outta highsec. Seems to be effective to me.

First non highsec kill report for FA. Happened today btw

First non Highsec kill report for Marmite. Also today. Guess either group will kill scrubs wherever scrubs happen to be.

First Highsec Kill report for your alliance. Several days ago (scared of highsec perhaps?)

From my personal kill reports? well then perhaps my most recent kill will do no? I'd be proud to link this honorable 1v1 win or lose.

I look forward to your next batch of tears

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Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2015-06-03 09:25:32 UTC
I think a thunder dome maybe be in order between you two Blink

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#33 - 2015-06-03 09:33:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Fybs wrote:
I think a thunder dome maybe be in order between you two Blink

Perhaps. When are you playing atm Fybs we need to catch up. Also I see you finally got SCA kicked from Marmite. Your life long goal Lol

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Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2015-06-03 09:48:46 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Fybs wrote:
I think a thunder dome maybe be in order between you two Blink

Perhaps. When are you playing atm Fybs we need to catch up. Also I see you finally got SCA kicked from Marmite. Your life long goal Lol


Tora found out I was holding his fedo's for ransom so yeh that was that Blink

But all serious I don't no where I'm going yet. iv had some good offers. but until I decide I'm taking some small contracts to keep myself busy.

il be online later if you catch me on Jump on my corp TS for a catch up mate.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#35 - 2015-06-03 10:03:47 UTC
yeah i seen the rook kill and in all fairness i tip my hat to that kill, but did marmite really blops a badger? an empty badger??? not scared of highsec most members being -10.0 kinda makes it difficult to do anything with concord breathing down your neck allbeit we dont wardec (or need to) so shouldnt the wardeccers actually go look for the target instead of expecting them to come to them? defeats the purpose really doesnt it

come on fighting mercs on the undock is a waste of time and you know it stop trying to paint it as something worth doing

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#36 - 2015-06-03 10:24:13 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
yeah i seen the rook kill and in all fairness i tip my hat to that kill, but did marmite really blops a badger? an empty badger??? not scared of highsec most members being -10.0 kinda makes it difficult to do anything with concord breathing down your neck allbeit we dont wardec (or need to) so shouldnt the wardeccers actually go look for the target instead of expecting them to come to them? defeats the purpose really doesnt it

come on fighting mercs on the undock is a waste of time and you know it stop trying to paint it as something worth doing

did they blops a badger? looks like it. did you recently blob a frig and whore on it with a 15 man fleet? also looks like it. are either an issue? not really...

You don't understand highsec I see as concord are constantly breathing down your neck when you go Lol. A hint for next time if you dont stupid bomb or shoot illegal targets and/or objects then concord don't show up Blink.

They do hunt their targets to the point specified in the contract. That's why they are Highsec mercs. Sec Status and killrights being an issue they can rarely afford to go to lowsec. Now FA are never on the undocks camping. POH rarely are (I had a couple in Rens a few weeks back playing on my undock until I started repping their targets because it was MY undock Blink). Marmite have 1 hub camping dedicated corp (25 members). Your argument is invalid since they aren't on the undock...

Perhaps your alliance should just learn to not use hauling paladins while at war and it might not be such an issue

Now at the OP don't let this teribad discourage you from playing the game. Your wardeccers look very killable

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#37 - 2015-06-03 10:50:00 UTC
hey its nothing really special is it though, blob a frig or blops a badger, its nothing to really advertise, no i dont understand highsec thats why i keep my blonde ass out of it, i was a noob and tried the whole shooting mercs, soon became boring losing frigs to a fleet which just appeared after you shot 1 of them, so much that it was apparent that it just was pointless trying, i guess every null/low/wh pvp corp feels the same otherwise you would be fighting daily with all these pvp corps you dec but the advice they give you is "we are wardecced stay out of highsec".

thing is i dont even need to go to highsec, i have neutral alts for doing everything i need in highsec and plenty of good content here so why would i bother even learning the mechanics of highsec warfare? Pirate i tried but it wasnt for me tbh Blink

I wouldnt say terribad my advice would be to hire mercs to fight as mercs know how mercs fight, id rather play how i wanted to instead of playing your wardec games which i dont really understand to just end up being easy kills for wardeccers

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#38 - 2015-06-03 12:00:45 UTC
........

OP?


Hello?


Bhueller?

*taps mike*

Is this thing on?



Ugh

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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flakeys
Doomheim
#39 - 2015-06-03 12:14:35 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
its exactly what i would do if i wardecced a industry corp, if they fought back then they are giving me content, i like content so i would dec again to get more content, and its easy content so its even better, best way to deal with wardeccers is not give them content, hense why low/null/wh corps just ignore wardecs and hense why wardeccers are too ***** to fight the low/null/wh corps they wardec. an industry corp is really just cannon fodder for mercs, merely target practice, you know that.

allbeit have fun in the game but pvp with mercs is pretty frustrating

Are there others game besides EVE where people discourage other players from playing the game and from having fun? People like you are the reason why so many quit out of boredom.

Usually such a wardec ends with both parties having fun and new friendships and stuff after all this is a game. Except if you cry about every loss, then they will come back to make you cry more because we don't like bad losers in this game.


Because gettting dunked on is fun for a new player ?Worst thing a new inexperienced player can do is fight empire deccers .

This does not mean they should not try to have fun with pvp , it means they should find alternatives.If the OP and his friends stock up some fitted frigs in FW space using courier contracts they could clone there during a war dec.Wich would get ridd of the wardeccer after a week as there is a VERRY small chance the deccer will enter low-sec and in the meantime these bears can learn some solo and smallscale pvp in cheap throwaway ships.After the decc is done they can decide to either go back to their mining or pve crap or stick around FW space if they find it fun.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2015-06-03 13:12:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Fybs
flakeys wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
its exactly what i would do if i wardecced a industry corp, if they fought back then they are giving me content, i like content so i would dec again to get more content, and its easy content so its even better, best way to deal with wardeccers is not give them content, hense why low/null/wh corps just ignore wardecs and hense why wardeccers are too ***** to fight the low/null/wh corps they wardec. an industry corp is really just cannon fodder for mercs, merely target practice, you know that.

allbeit have fun in the game but pvp with mercs is pretty frustrating

Are there others game besides EVE where people discourage other players from playing the game and from having fun? People like you are the reason why so many quit out of boredom.

Usually such a wardec ends with both parties having fun and new friendships and stuff after all this is a game. Except if you cry about every loss, then they will come back to make you cry more because we don't like bad losers in this game.


Because gettting dunked on is fun for a new player ?Worst thing a new inexperienced player can do is fight empire deccers .

This does not mean they should not try to have fun with pvp , it means they should find alternatives.If the OP and his friends stock up some fitted frigs in FW space using courier contracts they could clone there during a war dec.Wich would get ridd of the wardeccer after a week as there is a VERRY small chance the deccer will enter low-sec and in the meantime these bears can learn some solo and smallscale pvp in cheap throwaway ships.After the decc is done they can decide to either go back to their mining or pve crap or stick around FW space if they find it fun.


Or they could hire one of the well known Mercs in HS for a fee ofcourse and get a professional tailored service to suite there needs.
This will give content for both parties so it's win/win IMO.

@ Mike

The OP has chosen the above approach so this thread could be closed tbh.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

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