EVE New Citizens Q&A

you are just left on my own to fly to systems, pick a ship and explore / scan / mine, find other agents

or

make friends and play the real game

Edit: actually that's fairly vague , my apologies,
Once you've gotten used to the interface you should look at joining a player run corporation that either shares your goals or can help you diversify your skill set .

Here is an excellent read on the subject

Nope.

There are a few mission arcs if you are interested in PVE. The Sisters of Eve mission arc which starts in Arnon is geared toward new players and will give you a taste of various parts of New Eden. It's a good place to start to get down the basics and earn some start up cash.

However, there is much much more to EVE than missions or PVE in general. Players make the content here. We build and destroy empires. We work together to form vast fleets to smash our opponents. We form tight knit groups to smuggle goods and stake claims on our own corners of space. There is lying, cheating, scamming, thievery, and backstabbing. Alliances rise up and wither into dust.

Some of us are just eking out a living. Some of us are cultivating a vast following. Some of us will take any opportunity that comes along and some live by a code of honor. Some of us have the urge to explore the unknown. Some of us hold grudges for a very long time.

Wars are fought over scarce resources. Wars are fought when someone forgets to pay the bills. Wars are fought over words said in local.

Go out and join the universe. Find a corporation that is willing to train newbros and get involved. There are a million different paths you can carve out for yourself in New Eden, from anonymity to notoriety. What will you choose?

Oh you can certainly, if by that you mean having no one to support you then yes.

Playing solo is very possible, but it doesn't mean playing alone. There are offline games for that.
You can have your own business, your own goals, do what you want when you want, and still be part of a corporation of players who will simply enjoy to chat with you and share tips and advices. As you are new to the game i would suggest that you seek a "new players friendly" corporation.
Finding the right corporation for you is the real moment when you win EVE.
And who knows, maybe you may even discover that you share some goals with some other players

It is true that, as a newbie, you are slightly "gimped."

However that is the "challenge" of EVE. Everyone else is in competition with each other... for better and worse. And even if you reach the top you can be easily knocked down by a group of people who have put in half as much time, energy, and resources as you have. However, you can just as easily crush them using experience and allies. Which they can counter with theor own allies. Which you can counter with better tactics. And 'round and 'round we go!

The whole system is dynamic and rewards people who are more cunning and able to "think around" problems and limitations rather than just "work hard, push button, get bacon."

And yes... you can operate solo and make some modest gains. But bear in mind that anything you can do solo, groups of players can do better... whih requires you to think and act smarter than average (which, if you want to get to faster, kind of requires you join up with other players and learn from them first).

Don't be discouraged, the challenge is fun and it's very rewarding when you succeed. I started about a year ago and am still in love with EVE, give it a chance,

To the Original Poster Anthonious Sarcuunni... if you seek to play EvE Online alone, allow me to pass on my experience with it for your edification or your amusement, take your pick.

I will use this to set up my comments....



I could stare at asteroids for a decade alone just fine. I loved Mining and I enjoyed the empty vastness of EvE's virtual space. I left other Players alone because i was not seeking interaction and most Players respected my wishes by leaving me alone. My enjoyment of EvE was awesome. I looked forward to logging in every day and I actually looked forward to paying my subscription to support CCP.

Then I learned that just like in real life you can not be an island in EvE even when you want to be.

I am leaving EvE because just like Real Life some People can't take a hint and leave a person alone when that person does not interact with them... a clear signal that the person does not seek interaction (me). Some Players make it a quasi religious perversion to interact with Players that seek no interaction. I consider that wrong on many levels, no matter what EvE's back story is. If I encounter a person that wishes to be left alone and I intrude into their solitude I consider myself to be a rude bastard, so I leave that person to their solitude as i should.

I am also leaving EvE because since I learned that all actions are interpreted as hostile or adversarial, no matter whether you see your actions as harmless or not. I learned a few weeks ago in another thread CCP actually designed the game this way. I consider such a development mindset to be counter productive and wrong, just as I see real life laws that assume the motives of people are always a certain way to be counter productive and wrong.


To offer another answer to your statement Cara Forelli, For me personally there is something very interesting about shooting red crosses or staring at asteroids by yourself... it's just most people will never understand it because they don't experience life the way I do to be quite blunt about it.

Anthonious Sarcuunni good luck with EvE, I hope you find what you are looking for here. Head's Up on the "All actions are adversarial" thing.

I've made many posts on this so I'll make this one brief just out of being sick of reading my own posts lol.

Anyway Eve is very very much different from pretty much every other MMO out there, at least anyone that I have been exposed to. By design this game is intended to be more open ended and exploratory rather than directed, linear and controlled like other games. Not only are you pretty much left on your own to figure the game out for yourself and find your own personal play style but there are not even out of game guides or sites to tell you the best way to do so. That is not from lack of anyone making a guide on the best way to play eve it is from the lack of that one "best way" even existing.

In eve you have to try different stuff out and figure out for yourself what you like and don't like and adjust your play style accordingly. There is no: best spec, or best ship or best class or anything like that. There are no even up structured PvP matches between set numbers of same level similar gear score toons.

How this winds up playing out is that on day one you can get involved in PvP and be helpful, effective and a meaningful part of the group. You can participate in group activities along side 10 year old toons and be no more or less valuable. The skill points do open up options for you and make many things easier but lack of them does not bar you from doing anything. It might change the way that you do it but not prevent you from doing so.

As a WoW convert myself I'd like to offer some advice from ideas that I carried over that I feel were not helpful. First off bigger is not always better. Eve is usually about doing more with less. Early on while I was fresh from WoW I kept wanting to find the Eve equivalent of "the best gear" and it just does not exist. I've tried many things in the intervening years like dead space fit marauders and wound up with a T2 fit T1 ship as my primary ship that I fly for pretty much all of my PvE even though I can fly pretty much anything at this point. Probably the biggest PvP statistic in this game is the ratio of isk lost versus isk destroyed.

Next keep in mind in this game ships are tools. You are not trying to get decked out with the best fit you are trying to accomplish a task in an efficient manner. Don't get attached to ships and don't be afraid to throw them away like an empty fast food wrapper.

Next point is keep in mind this game is intentionally a PvP focused MMO. That means the game designers intentionally encourage group play over solo play and not only encourage PvP over PvE but make it so that there is no way to completely avoid PvP. This also means no one is holding your hand in this game. Almost every type of scum baggery that you can think of is considered fair play. In many cases it is encouraged. It is possible to play the game solo and avoid PvP mostly but you are swimming against the tide by doing so. No one will stop you from solo PvEing all day long just don't complain when game mechanics seem to not favor that game play as that is by intended design.

The main focus in this game is having fun and playing around. Avoid asking question like what should I do next, rather ask how could you do something or what are the advantages of doing something one way versus the other. And when I say avoid asking what "should" you do I mean don't even pose that question to yourself. Ask your self what would I like to do next and then you can come here and ask us how to do that.

Asking what kinds of things you could try next however is a fair question.

It can be if you let it, certainly. EvE is very absorbing and it's complexity quite appealing. It's up to you to not let yourself make it into a second job. Any hobby can consume you if you allow. Just be aware, no problem.








Not really. Sure, there are many things you won't be able to do yet, but you can have a lot of fun right now. Actually, many EvE players who have been playing EvE for years yearn for their early experiences in the game because they had so much fun. No need for you to be put off at all. Much to discover awaits you in EvE!

The game will be more fun if you find friends in-game to play with and do stuff with. BUT the main thing is that you enjoy what you do in the game. So if you enjoy mining or missions or blowing up someone elses MTU etc that is fine. If you are having fun then the game has done it's job. Essentially do what you want to do. There isn't an end game in EVE Online........it is infinite.