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New Dev Blog: DUST 514 Closed Beta Signup Now Live

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Jake Calmelat
Ahrendee Mercenaries
#201 - 2011-12-27 23:13:34 UTC
Dust 514 Got me to Sub to Eve and now I'm hooked! I hope all that apply get in seeing how it doesn't look to have much faith from Eve players.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#202 - 2011-12-28 09:19:45 UTC
Aegis Stormborn wrote:
PICK ME! PICK ME! PICK ME!

All signed up.

TO THE HATERS:

PS3 is only a few hundred $. If you don't have that you need to pick up a job and put down the games!


You are a smart guy

telling consolehaters to buy an console

R.S.I2014

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#203 - 2011-12-28 11:50:01 UTC
Signed up as North America, reporting for duty.
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#204 - 2011-12-28 16:31:52 UTC
I planned to get a ps3 when the time had come but maaaan, this post costed me nearly 200 € Lol

call me back froody guys

__________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you

Aegis Stormborn
Unknown-Entity
Naga Please.
#205 - 2011-12-28 17:04:45 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


You are a smart guy

telling consolehaters to buy an console


Smart like insisting something developed specifically for a console should be put on PC because a few people 'prefer PCs'?

QQ more.

It has to be a console to work, so either buy one and HTFU or quit yer bitchin.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#206 - 2011-12-29 01:01:35 UTC
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
no PC - no play.

that is all.


Had to be quoted again to perhaps get the message across to CCP


FPS are not console dominant and will remain console dominant don't like it quit playing games or grow up and pick up an xbox

CCP chose the wrong console and IMO the wrong time ( dust would have sold a lot more being a next gen launch title if its good)
but its ok, i have a PS3 and maybe its time to dust it off if i get a beta test ( no pun intended)

how will we get the beta invite though? assuming email? or eve gate? both?
Reiisha
#207 - 2011-12-29 04:30:42 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
no PC - no play.

that is all.


Had to be quoted again to perhaps get the message across to CCP


FPS are not console dominant and will remain console dominant don't like it quit playing games or grow up and pick up an xbox

CCP chose the wrong console and IMO the wrong time ( dust would have sold a lot more being a next gen launch title if its good)
but its ok, i have a PS3 and maybe its time to dust it off if i get a beta test ( no pun intended)

how will we get the beta invite though? assuming email? or eve gate? both?


The PS3 still has a long life ahead of it if the PS2 is any indication.

Dust will also work on the PS4+ for that matter. CCP wouldn't have gone for such an exclusivity deal if the game was going to be locked on the PS3 - Sony for that matter has learned it's lesson regarding backwards compatability, they will not be shipping a new console without it having access to the library of the previous ones. It's what made the PS2 shine even early on in it's life cycle, having access to the vast library of the PS1. Because the PS3 could not (reliably) play PS2 titles (and not at all after the very first hardware update), it's sales suffered due to a lack of good games available during it's first year. Sony isn't going to repeat this mistake again.

Dust will also eventually be released on the PC. It's inevitable.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Fallout Mayhem
Perkone
Caldari State
#208 - 2011-12-29 09:12:56 UTC
Signed up and reporting for duty.
Lord Okinaba
Aliastra
#209 - 2011-12-29 11:23:54 UTC
Does being a Playstation Gold subscriber effect your chances of selection?
doogymoogy
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#210 - 2011-12-29 12:20:40 UTC
Lock and Load P
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#211 - 2011-12-29 15:06:19 UTC
Aegis Stormborn wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


You are a smart guy

telling consolehaters to buy an console


Smart like insisting something developed specifically for a console should be put on PC because a few people 'prefer PCs'?

QQ more.

It has to be a console to work, so either buy one and HTFU or quit yer bitchin.



Don,t care if it comes to PC ,if yes .maybe i try it,if no ,who cares

The only thing i am afraid of is that when this concolecrap beta comes live a lot of resources a a moved away from the PC game that making this ***** possible.
And everybody is bitching about resources ,so why not me for a change.

R.S.I2014

Knarf Truesdale
The Milkmen
Churn and Burn
#212 - 2011-12-29 19:11:59 UTC
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
no PC - no play.

that is all.


+1

CCP 2009:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q CCP 2012:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r0KHMrjmk0

moar 2009 please.

J Kunjeh
#213 - 2011-12-29 21:58:02 UTC
Reiisha wrote:

Dust will also work on the PS4+ for that matter. CCP wouldn't have gone for such an exclusivity deal if the game was going to be locked on the PS3 - Sony for that matter has learned it's lesson regarding backwards compatability, they will not be shipping a new console without it having access to the library of the previous ones. It's what made the PS2 shine even early on in it's life cycle, having access to the vast library of the PS1. Because the PS3 could not (reliably) play PS2 titles (and not at all after the very first hardware update), it's sales suffered due to a lack of good games available during it's first year. Sony isn't going to repeat this mistake again.


I agree with you that Sony won't miss the boat on backwards compatibility with the PS3, I can't agree that the PS3 doesn't' reliably play PS2 and PS1 games. Mine does just fine (then again, I have a model with the PS2's Emotion Engine chip in it, not the emulated PS2 models).

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 

Adoniah Carrefour
the Whatley Brothers
#214 - 2011-12-30 03:02:34 UTC
The whole reason I have been playing this awesome game for the last two months is in anticipation of DUST514. Let me in I beg you!!
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#215 - 2011-12-30 06:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
Can't play EVE right now because of computer issues. My super-awesome PC blew up back in September, when Hydro switched out the meters by all appearances. Anyway: Too damn expensive to fix, so I'm a console Cuthbert for now.

Only reason I reactivated my sub is to post a suggestion or two in assembly hall and features and ideas, and to sign up for the Dust 514 beta. Happy me! The Beta wasn't enough incentive honestly, as I'm strapped for cash with work shortages and an off-chance isn't good enough reason by itself.

I'll be happy to test the beta and have a bit of fun if I get in. Some questions though..

Q: How long can a player expect to be in the beta?

Q: Is the Aurum on the Playstation Store free? Yes, that was a little ironic.

Q: Can we expect to keep our skillpoint progression and characters beyond beta? Minus Aurum and related purchases and aquisistions in Beta of course. Be nice to gain some advantage for participating.

Also, I still am 1100% against release of Dust on PC. I've spoken to at least one avid console gamer who, although aware of hacks on the console made available by USB keyboards, was completely unfamiliar with the level of hacking seen on PC.

He's a kid so he can be forgiven for hacking imo, but I still told him how much it pissed me and many others off and made sure he understood I consider it unacceptable to cheat for any reason in a game, even if it's just to unlock items for play as he apparently was.

Regardless, he had no awareness of any hacks that made available bounding boxes, and various other features available in hacks on PC, and even thought they were absurdely unfair. The things that really take the fun out of the games for honest players.

Personally, I regard hacking to be a form of griefing intentioned at other players enjoyment of the game in FPS. It's not just about personal satisfaction and kill ratios for FPS hackers on PC, but about depreciating the value of the game for everyone else.

Anyway, consoles are proven to be relatively hackproof, and PSN apparently has a ban and/or brick approach to dealing with hackers which is fine in my book.

PC has no means of control for dealing with hackers, aside from perhaps Steam and VAC policies which could be improved, but would require Steam to provide client updates directly in order to prevent games from migrating off Steam. Dust 514 would also have to be designed for PC in such a fashion that non-steam clients could not connect to server, so it would be Steam exclusive in that event.

There's more that could be done beyond that to help prevent such activities from affecting Dust 514 gameplay and, indirectly, EVE gameplay.
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Maul555
Xen Investments
#216 - 2011-12-30 19:03:02 UTC
hired goon wrote:
I bought a brand new Core i7 and Nvidia GTX 590 just for this game! I am so pumped, can't wait!!!! Big smile




This was a joke, right? yes?
Kujo Minowara
Solitary Ground
#217 - 2012-01-01 22:04:00 UTC
I'm really excited for the future release of DUST 514, but unfortunately I don't have a PS3, so signing for beta would only mean to steal some other the possibility to play =)

CCP, please let us know when the possibility to interact with beta testers on eve-side will be possible ^ ^

Good luck to all signers! =)
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#218 - 2012-01-01 23:42:41 UTC
Kujo Minowara wrote:
I'm really excited for the future release of DUST 514, but unfortunately I don't have a PS3, so signing for beta would only mean to steal some other the possibility to play =)

CCP, please let us know when the possibility to interact with beta testers on eve-side will be possible ^ ^

Good luck to all signers! =)


Yeah, put some EVE-side part of Dust on sisi along with the Dust trials
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#219 - 2012-01-02 06:36:47 UTC
You think the minmatar equipment and vehicles will be overpowered in dust as well?

lol

95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.

Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#220 - 2012-01-02 16:53:57 UTC
Joshua Aivoras wrote:
You think the minmatar equipment and vehicles will be overpowered in dust as well?

lol



I'm guessing that OP items/vehicles in Dust 514 will have far less of an effect on gameplay than they do here in EVE; mostly due to differences in the style of gameplay. An FPS isn't limited by the power of the items in the same fashion as a game like EVE, though they will and do make a difference in some respects.

Being able to take cover move or stand still, dodge, roll, crouch behind vehicles and objects, or whatever gives you a distinctive edge over weapons that may or may not be able to hit you, and you can always hide behind the other guy to. I'm sure he'll only appreciate that if he's a juggernaut though.

Anyway, it remains to be seen, but you also have to consider that someone has to physically aim at you in an FPS, and he can't shoot through everything to get you, unlike EVE. Unless he's using Hacks; but thats another thing, and one reason I'm glad it's not on PC. I'd give less than two weeks before a PC game would be overun by them and be totally unplayable.

It's not like a game like Dust will have the option of Admins, so blocking and banning Hackers is near to impossible aside from a reporting system. Even that's severely flawed considering it will just result in mostly temp bans with little or no proof the player was actually hacking. Mostly it'll result in griefing honest players.

Not intentionally perhaps, but FPS are rife with players who call foul.

Also, the very nature of weapons in the EVE universe indicates that Minmatar will be OP. You can't have a system with multiple resists and only one weapon group that covers them all without that happening.

A good example is the predictability of Hybrid ammo, which will be used by the Caldari and Gallente by all appearances, and has only two types. Amarr of course has only marginally more variations while being only slightly less predictable. It's not even the predictability that matters in this case, but rather the limitations of those weapon types as a result.

Hybrid cannot DPS EM or Explosive, and Lasers cannot DPS Explosive or Kinetic. So most armor tanks with Explosive holes are lacking a handicap against both those munitions types.

Thermal is predictably common to both, and well covered with base stats in armor and even shields, EM is not particularly useful against armor, but packs a punch on most shields, and Kinetic is marginally useful against both.

That makes Minmatar, with a complete spread of DPS types, the best all round munition, while it also packs a serious punch in DPS.

Honestly I see the limitations of Lasers, but I never figured out why Hybrid munitions were incapable of having a more even spread in the damage types. There's more than one way to mix plasma I'm thinking.
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