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Feature idea: hookbill gets 3 turret points and bonuses to turrets.

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SpaceClap Uitra
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-06-01 16:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: SpaceClap Uitra
For letting hookbill be a flexible ship because all the other races have a turret based military faction frig, hookbill being missiles only is a let down cause it should have 3 turrets with bonuses to turret damage so people that want to fly turret caldari navy frigate can use it for turrets. Then you could run 3 missile launchers and get bonus or 3 turrets and get bonus.

EDIT: I cant respond to thread with reply so I must edit.


As rule what? Merlin is a good turret ship, and there's nothing that says caldari can't have a missile/turret mix boat that is like the dragoon, could go for either turrets or launchers. It round out their options.

Look at gallente. Comet mixes heavy DPS from turrets and drones. Combines both features of gallente race. Firetail does the same. Combines missiles and projectile. Hookbill with 3 turret points and 3 missile points but only 3 highslots, it can be for either turrets or missiles by the intent of the flier, but doesn't do both in a hybrid way like comet and firetail. So its still a different and unique flavor design, but does allow the use of hookbill in either turret or missile form, to compliment the other races using both of their racial weapons at the same time on their ships.

I mostly would just like to be able to use a merlin with faction capability in hp and fitting and slots, although I do balk at merlin being the same as punisher for having resists bonuses, and not having something unique to it that makes it stand out.

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If you are counting on the Firetail's launcher to do something meaningful...I think you are fitting the ship incorrectly? Its only bonused for projectiles, and the comet is only bonused for hybrids?


Maybe. Then again any supplemental DPS is good DPS.Tormentor gets drones which aren't bonused, but they're definitely a part of the ship's power in PVP. Comet is also similar. It gets drone which aren't bonused, but they definitely supplement the DPS. The thing is both comet and firetail get a hybrid weapon system (as in mixed weapons, not hybrid turrets. The hookbill would still be relatively unique and different in the regard that the best fits would use either hybrids or missile launchers, while it has no drones, so it doesn't employ a hybrid weapon system like comet (with drones) or firetail (with proj and ML), but it still has the variability like comet and firetail can get, due to increased fitting potentials.
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ISD Alliance
#2 - 2015-06-01 21:06:21 UTC
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#3 - 2015-06-01 21:15:34 UTC
SpaceClap Uitra wrote:
For letting hookbill be a flexible ship because all the other races have a turret based military faction frig, hookbill being missiles only is a let down cause it should have 3 turrets with bonuses to turret damage so people that want to fly turret caldari navy frigate can use it for turrets. Then you could run 3 missile launchers and get bonus or 3 turrets and get bonus.


I think part of the reason for this is the other 3 factions focus on turret weapons with drones and missiles as an afterthought on most hulls, drone based ships not included.

The Caldari State however has multiple missile bonused hulls, and are the only faction who really use them as a mainstay, as such the hookbill falls in line with standard caldari shield/ missile doctrines rather than attempting to utilize railguns or blasters. Which also makes it more unique in those terms of layout and how it is different from everyone else.

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Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-06-01 21:34:40 UTC
Caldari are the premier missile faction. Leave the hookbill as is.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#5 - 2015-06-01 22:08:08 UTC
Why fix something that isn't broken?

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Kashadin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-06-01 22:15:09 UTC
Because as a rule most Caldari Hybrid boats fall well short of the Galente but the missile boats are able to keep up.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#7 - 2015-06-01 22:57:32 UTC
Yup, Caldari's primary is missiles. If you want hybrids fly a comet.

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Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#8 - 2015-06-02 00:08:57 UTC
SpaceClap Uitra wrote:
Look at gallente. Comet mixes heavy DPS from turrets and drones. Combines both features of gallente race. Firetail does the same. Combines missiles and projectile.


If you are counting on the Firetail's launcher to do something meaningful...I think you are fitting the ship incorrectly? Its only bonused for projectiles, and the comet is only bonused for hybrids?

The four navy frigates are among the best balanced set of 4 ships vs each other in the game at the moment. Hookbill has brawly rocket options and kitey LML options. Firetail can brawl or kite. Comet can brawl or kite. The only one that cannot do both (well) is the slicer...but thats pretty endemic to Amarr these days; they are a now a kiting race, not a slow brawly armor race. Part of that is that brawling is dead, and part of that is the ships have exceptionally good kiting fits.


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