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Machimpy
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-05-31 19:54:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Machimpy
Celise Katelo wrote:
Such a pointless topic... i thought i would post in it again. Shocked Since i like to waist my own time Blink

You claim you have limited time to play the game. This is the problem "Not the game" .


This is the Core reason many games get this:

dumbed-down

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adjective: dumbed-down; adjective: dumbeddown

simplified so as to be intellectually undemanding and accessible to a wide audience.



No you're way off, i love Eve just the way it is, and Im not asking for the game to be changed to suit my schedule, Im asking if there are any ways available RIGHT NOW, that I might not be aware of that could help me with:

To tell in practical terms what YOU would do with the great many tools available in the game if you had only 3hrs a week to spend.

Clear enough ?
Ajunta Pal
Sith Wannabies Annonymous
#22 - 2015-05-31 20:08:43 UTC
You could always do mission in hi-sec, depending on skills and skillz and ships used, you can do 1-10 missions per hour making between 5 and 50 m per mission. Or if you are willing to be more risky you could do missions in low or null. Ofcoarse there is also finding a chat channel you like and being a chat warrior (possibly at the same time as doing something else)
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-05-31 20:20:27 UTC
Machimpy wrote:
Hi,

I have this issue,

I really like this game, been playing it a while.

But you see, I like RL more, i dont want to spend much time with this game more than I have to.

Only just to log in, do whatever i feel like for a little bit and log off.

I am willing to put 3h a week into this game.

My issue with that ammount of time and the options available to me ingame to be able to afford it (ie some pvp and losing/replacing ships), simply dont allow me to do so without a minimum effort of at least 8hrs a week.

I do not have such time, yet, I still want to pay my sub and play the way i'd like to.

I cannot afford to buy PLEX as I prefer saving my money for other more important stuff.

So here are the options laid out:

Trading ? Impossible as I'd have to log on every couple hours every day to adjust prices if my aim is to make good income in a competitive market.

Ded sites module farming ? Not possible, as that alone would take a good couple of hours to find and run through, not to mention the irrecoverable risk of losing a ratting ship next to my limited playtime allowance.

WH Pi ? Not worth the effort as most wh alliances and corps would require a time dedication that i simply cannot give, not mention how I hate being forced on TS to listen to you guys blabble crap in my ears within the comfort of my own home.

Empire Pi ? Not worth the hauling and preparation effort to make it feasible within my playtime.

Null Exploration ? A likely contender, but the ammount of time usually taken to find a good enough site trumps all over my playtime allowance, good relic sites with tech 2 mods bp's in are scarce, and good data sites even more.

Incursions ? Nope, the time it takes finding a fleet easily trumps my playtime, and no way would I want to find myself ratting for all the time I have.

Scamming ? A very likely contender, as I've never really tried it. Im open to private suggestions/help on this.

And the list could surely go on I hope ...

If you guys have any other ideas, feel free to add in. It's either I find a solution to this soon or Im pretty much biomassing all my **** for good, as I dont see the point, nor do I see myself playing this game in the far future.

Cheers.


3H a week is doable in FW if you are efficient. You need to identify low traffic systems belonging to the enemy faction and use a small high DPS ship like a blaster frigate or a destroyer to capture enemy complexes. 50M/Hr doing this is achievable if, once again, you pick your system cluster well and avoid pvp until after you've grabbed enough LP to pay for your ships. So you spend an hour or so farming LP and then another hour or two looking for fights you can win solo or flying with a militia fleet in something cheap.

You'll have to occasionally take time out to convert LP into ISK but this isn't too difficult once you get the hang of it. To make enough LP though you will need to run a couple of novice/small outposts in the least trafficked systems you can find in something with ~200 DPS that is hard to catch.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#24 - 2015-05-31 20:24:48 UTC
Machimpy wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
In 3 hours i can:
mine a lot and use the ore after a few weeks ot build a few ships i can sell

go to a wh, setup my own pos, and do pi and or raid the sites, which cna net me 300m isk an hour if i'm lucky

get an exploration ship, run to 0.0, hunt down data and relic sites which could net me another 500m if i'm luck.

gate camp and kill some idiots.

join an alliance and time my play time with a cta or a fleet roam.

You don;t need to join a corp or alliance to do wh's, you can make your own corp, spend a few week looking, fin a hole that is empty, set up, milk it for a month or two, and leave. If you play your cards right and can solo your home or static, you could net a couple billion in a few months, then go pvp for a few months, then reset in the wh. it really is not that bloody hard to do stuff.


All that, in 3hrs with only one acct?




yup, pick an occupation and do it. once your setup in an area its rather easy to do some stuff in 3 hours, esp if you are not grinding for a plex.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-05-31 21:30:17 UTC
what is it that you do that only affords you 3 hours a week? are you sleeping 16 hours a day? do you work 60 hours a week? or is it a limit that your parents put on you? is this a temporary thing or are you stuck at 3 hours a week permanently?
Machimpy
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-05-31 21:49:09 UTC
Daoden wrote:
what is it that you do that only affords you 3 hours a week? are you sleeping 16 hours a day? do you work 60 hours a week? or is it a limit that your parents put on you? is this a temporary thing or are you stuck at 3 hours a week permanently?


Does it matter ? You wont sleep tonight if I dont tell you ?
Planteious
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-05-31 22:15:00 UTC
Take an Evacation. Until you could spend 6 hrs per week. Than come back. No need to stretch yourself and have that under such stresfull conditions. This game would wait for you.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#28 - 2015-05-31 22:41:22 UTC
Machimpy wrote:

To tell in practical terms what YOU would do with the great many tools available in the game if you had only 3hrs a week to spend.

I'd probably run missions, do some lowsec pi and look out for industrial opportunities that would fit in the given playtime. Usually I can be interrupted at any given time, so add that to the list of restrictions.

As soon as I feel comfortable with the size of my wallet, I'd shop some minerals and everything else needed to build stuff. Then i'd watch out for some fleetmates and make sure to get some decent explosions out of my assets.

Remove standings and insurance.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-05-31 22:43:26 UTC
Cut down to 1 account, pay subscription.

On 1 character, do trading. 3h/week is enough to make at least 500 mil a month (1 bil would be quite feasible though). Especially if you can use 70 minutes of those 3 hours to log on daily and do a quick 10-minute update of orders.

On 1 character, PVP. Unless you just use caps or faction bs and you're bad and/or reckless, you're not going to lose more than 500 mil a month if you PVP for less than 8 hours.

The 3rd character could trade as well, boosting your income and/or lowering the time spent not PVP-ing.


You're welcome.

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Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#30 - 2015-05-31 22:55:04 UTC
I'm not going to troll solely because the op brings up a point.

How do you play Eve on 3 hours a week.

Or...

How do you play eve casually.

It's a significant issue CCP has been trying to address for ...ever.

To the op.

You won't make a difference in anybody's life on 3 hours a week. You are a casual player. You cannot grind isk, go on fleet ops, do crazy flight skills, etc... But you have options depending on what you like...

Fastest way to pew, fleet warfare (lowsec). Can also pve farm stuff and lp. You can also do pi in alternate lowsec areas. This is probably your main area of enjoyment. On the pi stuff, pick systems with low traffic, near highsec islands, out of fleet warfare areas uncontrolled by your groups

Exploration. You can dive c1 through c3 wormholes to do their sites. You can also use these wormholes to travel to null to do their sites

Missions are a limited option.

You have to find what you enjoy about the game. Ultimately what will keep you playing is not the activity, but the friends you make in the game.

Yaay!!!!
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-05-31 23:16:15 UTC
Your title for this topic is rather incorrect "3h per week" , it should say something like this "How do i make fast ISK... me want Plex quickly !!!".

Then you write a wall of text, with how you have failed to make the ISK that you need to complete the task you have set yourself. Then want a answer after you have made some rather crude comments to what others have posted.

Clearly you should delete your posts & start again with this:

12hrs of online time per month to make a Plex (For my subscription) & enough ISK to pvp & do other stuff.
Please someone give me the information on how to make ISK so quickly... Blink

Don't ever write "Clear enough ? " to me OP, thats asking for trouble. How rude Shocked
I will hunt you down in my Gila & teabag your frozen corpse with my Fedo's.. They like to teabag Pirate



EVEBoard ...Just over 60million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#32 - 2015-05-31 23:28:53 UTC
The Irony here is that EVE Online is light years more 'accessible' to new players and players with limited time than ever before. The game now has effective ships and weapons that are super cheap as well super easy to train for (thanks to tiercide) while at the same time making isk is so ridiculously easy it's almost a crime.


And yet we still we get threads like this, proving something I've believed for a longtime: No amount of 'lowering barriers to entry' or dumbing down a game will ever be enough for some people, because the problem isn't the game's barriers (or even limited play time do to real life), it's the self-limiting and self-defeating nature of the people who complain about tings being to hard. 3 hours per week is more than enough for a player that really wants to play.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2015-05-31 23:51:04 UTC
Machimpy wrote:
Hi,

I have this issue,

I really like this game, been playing it a while.

But you see, I like RL more, i dont want to spend much time with this game more than I have to.

Only just to log in, do whatever i feel like for a little bit and log off.

I am willing to put 3h a week into this game.

My issue with that ammount of time and the options available to me ingame to be able to afford it (ie some pvp and losing/replacing ships), simply dont allow me to do so without a minimum effort of at least 8hrs a week.

I do not have such time, yet, I still want to pay my sub and play the way i'd like to.

I cannot afford to buy PLEX as I prefer saving my money for other more important stuff.

So here are the options laid out:

Trading ? Impossible as I'd have to log on every couple hours every day to adjust prices if my aim is to make good income in a competitive market.

Ded sites module farming ? Not possible, as that alone would take a good couple of hours to find and run through, not to mention the irrecoverable risk of losing a ratting ship next to my limited playtime allowance.

WH Pi ? Not worth the effort as most wh alliances and corps would require a time dedication that i simply cannot give, not mention how I hate being forced on TS to listen to you guys blabble crap in my ears within the comfort of my own home.

Empire Pi ? Not worth the hauling and preparation effort to make it feasible within my playtime.

Null Exploration ? A likely contender, but the ammount of time usually taken to find a good enough site trumps all over my playtime allowance, good relic sites with tech 2 mods bp's in are scarce, and good data sites even more.

Incursions ? Nope, the time it takes finding a fleet easily trumps my playtime, and no way would I want to find myself ratting for all the time I have.

Scamming ? A very likely contender, as I've never really tried it. Im open to private suggestions/help on this.

And the list could surely go on I hope ...

If you guys have any other ideas, feel free to add in. It's either I find a solution to this soon or Im pretty much biomassing all my **** for good, as I dont see the point, nor do I see myself playing this game in the far future.

Cheers.


Good for you. Many players leave the game for the sake of time. Don't be stupid, go get married, have kids, get promoted. Buy a console and play console games. EVE Online has some problems, and is good for unemployed, part time employed, employed at boring jobs, single, university and other folks who have more free time on their hands.
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#34 - 2015-05-31 23:59:45 UTC
Time is the ISK of life. Don't let others tell you how to spend it.

"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-06-01 01:17:04 UTC
Machimpy wrote:
Daoden wrote:
what is it that you do that only affords you 3 hours a week? are you sleeping 16 hours a day? do you work 60 hours a week? or is it a limit that your parents put on you? is this a temporary thing or are you stuck at 3 hours a week permanently?


Does it matter ? You wont sleep tonight if I dont tell you ?


Doesn't bother me one way or another, but that amount of time is pretty much useless if you have to stick to only 3 hours a week. If that's just and avg and you get more play time certain weeks then that's different
For instance ive been working a lot more this last week cause of things going on at work, don't get to do much and my alliance mates know that, that in mind they also know ill be available more often again after this project is done.


That and you saying
Quote:
But you see, I like RL more, i dont want to spend much time with this game more than I have to.

sound like you don't have any restrictions like work or anything like that and makes you sound like a lazy bum looking for free ISK or just trolling the forums in general.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2015-06-01 01:29:53 UTC
If you want to play a few hours a week and make ISK, find a proper organization that backs its fleets with ship replacement and you get your selective gameplay and income.

Provided you've skilled your character properly, such organizations have turned soldiering into a profession, by definition. You fill a role, and make ISK.

No more PVE, you log in at predictable times, have fun playing, and get ISK when you die.

Karmafleet is recruiting. We die a lot.

Help, I can't download EVE

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PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Sykaotic
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-06-01 01:52:43 UTC
3 hrs a week is plenty.

Start a forum and charge your forum members 10 dollars each.

Have all of them join you playing Eve.

Then you can cut the hours. Log in 3 hours per month and "command" them.

Easy peasy. You don't even have to play the game... and could even do less than 3 hours per month.

Your welcome Lol
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2015-06-01 08:45:10 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Machimpy wrote:
Hi,

I have this issue,

I really like this game, been playing it a while.

But you see, I like RL more, i dont want to spend much time with this game more than I have to.

Only just to log in, do whatever i feel like for a little bit and log off.

I am willing to put 3h a week into this game.

My issue with that ammount of time and the options available to me ingame to be able to afford it (ie some pvp and losing/replacing ships), simply dont allow me to do so without a minimum effort of at least 8hrs a week.

I do not have such time, yet, I still want to pay my sub and play the way i'd like to.

I cannot afford to buy PLEX as I prefer saving my money for other more important stuff.

So here are the options laid out:

Trading ? Impossible as I'd have to log on every couple hours every day to adjust prices if my aim is to make good income in a competitive market.

Ded sites module farming ? Not possible, as that alone would take a good couple of hours to find and run through, not to mention the irrecoverable risk of losing a ratting ship next to my limited playtime allowance.

WH Pi ? Not worth the effort as most wh alliances and corps would require a time dedication that i simply cannot give, not mention how I hate being forced on TS to listen to you guys blabble crap in my ears within the comfort of my own home.

Empire Pi ? Not worth the hauling and preparation effort to make it feasible within my playtime.

Null Exploration ? A likely contender, but the ammount of time usually taken to find a good enough site trumps all over my playtime allowance, good relic sites with tech 2 mods bp's in are scarce, and good data sites even more.

Incursions ? Nope, the time it takes finding a fleet easily trumps my playtime, and no way would I want to find myself ratting for all the time I have.

Scamming ? A very likely contender, as I've never really tried it. Im open to private suggestions/help on this.

And the list could surely go on I hope ...

If you guys have any other ideas, feel free to add in. It's either I find a solution to this soon or Im pretty much biomassing all my **** for good, as I dont see the point, nor do I see myself playing this game in the far future.

Cheers.


Good for you. Many players leave the game for the sake of time. Don't be stupid, go get married, have kids, get promoted. Buy a console and play console games. EVE Online has some problems, and is good for unemployed, part time employed, employed at boring jobs, single, university and other folks who have more free time on their hands.


i guess you are all of the above? i'm not so dunno where you get that from :/

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#39 - 2015-06-01 10:42:45 UTC
Eh, character bazaar. That or like someone mentioned, FW, maybe train an SB.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#40 - 2015-06-01 11:37:53 UTC
Some low-class industrial-based wormhole corp would probably fit you nicely. They're mostly all hardcore carebears anyways, with little demand on their members for constant calls to arms. You could run sites and PI at your leasure, whenever you have free time to play, as long as you are able to log in for short durations regularly to restart the extractors.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.