Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm bad at maths, but these 3 major module could be ore/ice mining, cov ops/gas and salvager(noctis?) or booster.
I wonder if a battleship would be cool, that should make a higher price tag than T3 cruiser and give to industrial player their first battleship sized vesselin the same time, this or a battlecruiser.

Should have been practice all along. release with underwhelming stats, adjust upwards to hit approximate balance in 1.1, then another look in the next release.

Instead of making a whole new ship, can't we deal with the Rorqual 1st?

Nope. Industrial structures, mining drills, and rorquals aren't what this thread is about.

You're derailing the thread and unfortunately, need a muzzle.

Exhumation matrix - for strips only?
Covert configuration - for mining laser and gas harvesters only?
and electronic subsystems - do we really need them? you can move tractor beams to salvager rescue system.
love the idea, but need some work on numbers.

love the name of ship!!!!

Waiting for this thread to die, or OP to make new contributions.
Have a mostly baked proposal once this is dead.

Sorry. Lots of work and stuff. Still think the subsystem bonuses and stuff on my op was ok but I took the problems with slots and sometimes over the top bonuses to heart and changed it thus:

Ore Strategic Industrial bonuses:
5% reduction in module heat damage amount taken per level

Industrial Subsystems

Proletariat Industrial - Exhumation Matrix
2 Highslots
5% bonus to Strip Miner and Ice Harvester range per level
3% reduction in Strip Miner and Ice Harvester duration per level

Proletariat Industrial - Covert Configuration
3 Highslots
7.5% bonus to Mining yield per level
5% reduction in Gas Cloud Harvesting duration per level
Role Bonus:
100% bonus to Mining and Gas Cloud Harvesting yield
100% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
50% reduction to ship cargo capacity
• Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device and Covert Cynosural Field Generator
• Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds

Proletariat Industrial - Salvage rescue systems
7 Highslots
5% reduction in Salvager duration per level

Proletariat Industrial - Foreman Processor
3 Highslots + 1 Medslot
2% bonus to Mining Foreman Links effectiveness per level
Role Bonus:
• Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously

Cargo Subsystems

Proletariat Cargo - Ore Transports
2 Lowslot
Cargo Capacity 550 + Ore Capacity 30,000
10% bonus to ship ore hold capacity per level

Proletariat Cargo - Planetary Resources Transports
2 Lowslot
Cargo Capacity 550 + Planetary Commodity Capacity 30,000
10% bonus to ship planetary commodity hold capacity per level

Proletariat Cargo - Ship Transports
2 Lowslot
Cargo Capacity 550 + Ship Maintenance Bay Capacity 1,000,000

Proletariat Cargo - Danger zone transports
3 Medslot + 1 Lowslot
Cargo Capacity 5000 + Fleet Hangar Capacity 40,000
5% bonus to fleet hangar capacity per level
4% bonus to all shield resistances per level

Propulsion Subsystems

Proletariat Propulsion - Cargo Storage Optimization
2% bonus to ship cargo capacity per level
Role Bonus:
25% reduction to ship max velocity

Proletariat Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
1 Medslot + 1 Lowslot
10% bonus to afterburner speed per level

Proletariat Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
1 Lowslot
5% bonus to max velocity per level

Proletariat Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
5% increased agility per level
Role Bonus:
Immunity to non-targeted interdiction

Engineering Subsystems

Proletariat Engineering - Superior heat injection
1 Medslot
17.5% bonus to the benefits of overheating Afterburners, Microwarpdrives, Local Repair Modules and Resistance Modules per level

Proletariat Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector
1 Medslot
5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level

Proletariat Engineering- Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
1 Medslot
5% reduction in capacitor recharge rate per level

Proletariat Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
1 Medslot
5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level

Electronic Subsystems

Proletariat Electronic - Tractor Efficiency Crystals
1 Highslots + 1 Medslot
5% reduction in Tractor Beam duration per level
60% bonus to Tractor Beam range and velocity per level

Proletariat Electronic - Tactical Surveys
2 Medslot
100% bonus to Survey Scanner range per level

Proletariat Electronic - Minimalist Sensor Radiant
2 Medslot
5% reduction in signature radius per level

Proletariat Electronic - Emergent Locus
1 Highslot + 2 Medslot
10% increase to scan strength of probes per level
Role Bonus:
+10 bonus to Relic and Data Analyzer virus strength

So, by my count: 3/6/2, with a larger hangar than the dedicated ore bay (50k @ l5 skills vs 45K @ l5 skills) and a max of 3.45 effective strip miners vs a hulk with an effective max of 5.4, but the shield resists and mids to mount a credible tank. Looks like a super retriever, with tank to me.

Closer. an interesting trade off set, but some subsystems are pretty unbalanced vs others, especially if this has lots of fitting room

Maybe we shouldn't follow the current T3 model for subsystems. If we did, we might as well simply add more subsystems to the current line up and call it a day.

If you were to design a new one, you would base it off of different aspects. Cargo subsystems, resources subs, propulsion, and electronics. Much easier to balance and create defined roles for each if you remove the extras. Don't even necessarily need 4 per group either. Could be more or less depending on role.

Hell, scrap the current groups and give it as many groups as needed to maintain balance.

E: similar to what he said ^^^

At least some variation of the idea would make sense and be useful.