EVE General Discussion

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Also, a very particularly crippling expression of paranoid delusion and related disorders.

I agree with the Guardian, both as player and roleplayer.
The nullsec mafia has done a lot of harm to EVE. CCP has of course a big part of responsability in it (someone said favouritism ?).
I sincerely hope that the coming changes to the sovereignty system will improve the situation by making these huge alliances explode and offer us a much more dynamic gameplay where the small entities have their word to say.

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Great. Now I'm going to have to start wearing pants when I play.
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I'm not a fan of goons and i'm all for downsizing alliances but to claim they killed off a lot of the fun in eve , that's ten bridges too far mate.Stuff changes , it never stays what it was and if it would become what it once was again it would be utterly boring.

I started in 2006. My opinion is that the game and the players have definitely changed over the years, and while I don't think "aloof" is the perfect word to describe Eve, I can definitely see how that word applies to the culture surrounding the game more now than it did a decade ago.

Lots of things that are prevalent in the game now, and viewed as the things that help made Eve such a hard, cold world and that players need to deal with if they want to last here... those things existed 10 years ago but not to the level they do now. Sure you could get scammed back in the day, but you didn't have to close your local tab every time you were in a hub or risk epileptic seizures as the scams spam by. Sure you could get ganked back in the day, but there wasn't a whole player subculture devoted to it. Sure there was discussion of what ships/modules to use when, but no one went saying "our doctrine this" or "current meta that."

The fact that these things (and others) are all institutionalized into the game nowadays, and that everyone who has been dealing with their slow growth over the years now scoffs at anyone who can't fit in after their first month of playing, sounds like "aloof" to me I guess.


Really though, it's no different than how a playerbase for any game that lasts for 10+ years refines over the years. I can't even imagine what 1999 me would say about the people who still play Everquest today. The people who do solo hardcore insanity dificulty runs of Baldur's Gate now are a lot different than the average person who loaded into Candlekeep 1998 and legitimately laughed at Winthrop's joke. The people who played chess 200 years ago would be baffled by the culture surrounding chess masters nowadays.

And like all that, as Eve's playerbase became more specialized with the game it spent so much time with, as the game became more and more broad and deep, as the players who didn't love Eve quit and only the most dedicated old (and new) players stayed... Eve became more "aloof".

I don't know, on several occasions I've seen and heard folks engaging in RP in random places in EVE.

I think that role play is still around. As long as there are imaginative people around to create stories of their own, then role play will never die

I would even postulate that aren't we all role players to some extent. I mean isn't this game classified as a mmorpg ? We all fly around in ships created by someone's imagination. We all fly through space that came from someone's big beautifull brain? And lastly we all do said activities using characters we ourselves create.

Even the most ardent non RPer would never be able to stamp it out.

I think that active role playing is still around, it's just gone underground until it becomes cool for nerds and geeks like us to do again.

Eve with all its flaws is a unique and awesome game. I hope it says alive for another decade but things are not looking well lately.

What are you basing that claim on?

EVE actually used to be seriously immersive, instead of the trollfest it is today. When you were interacting with Vandalar Cage, you were interacting with Vandalar Cage, Gallente spaceship pilot that works part time in research and part time in piracy. Today you're interacting with Brian Jennings, internet spaceship gamer that works part time in trolling and part time in griefing.