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CCP your button placement hurts my brain.

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Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#1 - 2011-12-28 17:34:05 UTC
Why in gods name is the Analyze and Recover Active Probes buttons so close together!??!? I have fat fingered the recover active probes button more than i care to discuss.

I have more space likes than you. 
Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-12-28 17:36:02 UTC
Dbars Grinding wrote:
Why in gods name is the Analyze and Recover Active Probes buttons so close together!??!? I have fat fingered the recover active probes button more than i care to discuss.


This player needs a Diet [BUTAN]!
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-28 17:39:02 UTC
The UI is in dire need of a face lift. This, to me, is a minor issue. The biggest issue is that the stock UI looks like the inside of a 747 jet to a newbie, and there's no way to mod it to make it simpler. Add to that, after you play a while most of your screen real estate will be taken up by Overview, D-Scan, Fleet/Corp Chat, Local Chat, Drone Window, Cap Thingy, Target Boxes, and that little 3 square inches in the middle devoted to all the pretty graphics.

Every single person I've introduced to this game has been resistant to get into because of the UI.

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#4 - 2011-12-28 17:59:45 UTC
Pinaculus wrote:
The UI is in dire need of a face lift. This, to me, is a minor issue. The biggest issue is that the stock UI looks like the inside of a 747 jet to a newbie, and there's no way to mod it to make it simpler. Add to that, after you play a while most of your screen real estate will be taken up by Overview, D-Scan, Fleet/Corp Chat, Local Chat, Drone Window, Cap Thingy, Target Boxes, and that little 3 square inches in the middle devoted to all the pretty graphics.

Every single person I've introduced to this game has been resistant to get into because of the UI.

So what are you saying is CCP needs to copy WoW's ui? I honestly do not see any way to make the UI simplier while retaining the same functionaility and information it current has all of which is important.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#5 - 2011-12-28 18:06:44 UTC
The ui should change based on what type of ship you fly.

example http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9528/comic41f1.jpg

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2011-12-28 18:20:24 UTC
Theres literally hundreds of writeups on the internets that will explain the workings and meanings of every part of the UI. If its too hard to understand, GTFO.

Learn, Adapt, Understand, Win.
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#7 - 2011-12-28 18:28:15 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Theres literally hundreds of writeups on the internets that will explain the workings and meanings of every part of the UI. If its too hard to understand, GTFO.

Learn, Adapt, Understand, Win.





I just became dumber by the responses to this thread. This is probably the dumbest. So you what you are sayin is there is a written reason somewhere on the internet that explains why two buttons are close together?

I have more space likes than you. 
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#8 - 2011-12-28 18:32:22 UTC
This is the eve online forums, any complaints will be met with extreme trolling, stupid responses, stuff that doesnt make sense, charts, graphs, and ponies.

Also saying you have fat fingers when you clearly need to use the mouse to click those buttons doesnt help your case about complaining about the UI.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#9 - 2011-12-28 18:52:58 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
This is the eve online forums, any complaints will be met with extreme trolling, stupid responses, stuff that doesnt make sense, charts, graphs, and ponies.

Also saying you have fat fingers when you clearly need to use the mouse to click those buttons doesnt help your case about complaining about the UI.




you trolling me bro?

fat fingers

verb - transitive

To accidentally press an adjacent button, e.g. while typing on a keyboard or entering a phone number. Happens more frequently as the button size is reduced, e.g. on cell phones.
Whoops, I just fat-fingered his phone number.

I have more space likes than you. 
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#10 - 2011-12-28 20:29:55 UTC
I think a better solution would be to add an analyze hotkey. I know I personally would prefer that, so that obviously means that is the correct solution. Cool

I do agree though, do one or the other, or switch 'reconnect to lost probes' with 'recover active probes' so at least we don't have to toss out and set up our probes again.

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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#11 - 2011-12-28 20:44:09 UTC
I downgraded to the text client. Now I got to enter commands like:

give him whiskey, marry fawn, pick up metal post or target XYZ.

It takes some time but it moves the wear down from the right mouse button to the keyboard.

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-12-28 20:48:55 UTC
We have to remember that an OP can only be as dumb as the people who bothered to post in his thread. Since I am not adding content to his post, I ofc am except from this rule of posting.

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Darth A30NZ
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#13 - 2011-12-28 21:00:58 UTC
This game is hard make it easier

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Avid Bumhumper
Beekeepers Anonymous
#14 - 2011-12-28 21:02:05 UTC
It took them years to move the offline tower away from the manage tower in the dropdown menu....give them time.....maybe in 10 years....

My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale.....
Arjola Elongur
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-12-28 21:40:19 UTC
Pinaculus wrote:
The UI is in dire need of a face lift.

This has been the case for several years now.

The only truely sad thing is that even the UI elements introduced more recently are just as bad.
Looks like CCP are trying to keep riding the horrible UI concept until they finally decide to drive it off a cliff altogether instead of improving it gradually.
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2011-12-28 22:46:28 UTC
brb getting popcorn

(jk, I MIGHT even take a look at moving the buttons a bit apart when I get back from holiday - for all you fat finger people)

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#17 - 2011-12-28 22:54:43 UTC
I think the issue is that the buttons do 2 things that are very contradictory.


Maybe put the buttons in the following format : Analyze - Recover Probes - Then Return Probes

I have done it a couple times by mistake while combat scanning in a rush - cursing... Combat scanning is a bit more complicated when trying to sneak up on someone so that much more a pain in the @$$ when it happens.

Where I am.
Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2011-12-28 22:57:32 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
brb getting popcorn

(jk, I MIGHT even take a look at moving the buttons a bit apart when I get back from holiday - for all you fat finger people)


You Filthy Enabler. ShockedLolPirate
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
#19 - 2011-12-28 22:58:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Koronakesh
CCP Punkturis wrote:
brb getting popcorn

(jk, I MIGHT even take a look at moving the buttons a bit apart when I get back from holiday - for all you fat finger people)

On the subject of moving UI things around, can you move "Repackage" so it's no longer immediately adjacent to "Trash it" thanks

SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin
Rixiu
PonyTek
#20 - 2011-12-28 22:59:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Rixiu
CCP Punkturis wrote:


(jk, I MIGHT even take a look at moving the buttons a bit apart when I get back from holiday - for all you fat finger people)


Let's not do anything too ground breaking. Moving buttons further apart? How dare you?! The ui should be completely unusable and not make sense at all and that's half the challenge of the game. STOP RUINING EVE! OMG RAGE RAGE!
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