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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-05-27 17:03:43 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:

I still think it could be done. you guys are just lazy and stupid.


Right, so trolling, as per usual. Reported. Have a stellar day!

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Iain Cariaba
#22 - 2015-05-27 17:07:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Iain Cariaba
Ares Desideratus wrote:
yeah, let's not add anything to the game because it might create an imbalance.

There's already enough imbalance in this game without providing the players more tools to break what little balance there actually is.

Take Ishtars. Ishtars are already one of, if not the most complained about ships in EvE currently. Most of this has to do with the damage application bonus they get to sentries. With your idea, we would be able to build Ishtar fleets that have an increased damage application bonus, over and above what it was before CCP lowered it a bit.

Does taking an already overpowered ship and giving the players the ability to make it more overpowered really sound like a good idea? That's like playing Skyrim, setting the game difficulty to novice, then using the console commands to make out your character. Sure, the game's playable, but it's no challenge, and not a whole lot of fun.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-05-27 17:29:55 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Ares Desideratus wrote:
yeah, let's not add anything to the game because it might create an imbalance.

There's already enough imbalance in this game without providing the players more tools to break what little balance there actually is.

Take Ishtars. Ishtars are already one of, if not the most complained about ships in EvE currently. Most of this has to do with the damage application bonus they get to sentries. With your idea, we would be able to build Ishtar fleets that have an increased damage application bonus, over and above what it was before CCP lowered it a bit.

Does taking an already overpowered ship and giving the players the ability to make it more overpowered really sound like a good idea? That's like playing Skyrim, setting the game difficulty to novice, then using the console commands to make out your character. Sure, the game's playable, but it's no challenge, and not a whole lot of fun.

CCP would have the ability to decide what players could change about each ship. Your assumptions are really really dumb.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-05-27 17:30:43 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Ares Desideratus wrote:

I still think it could be done. you guys are just lazy and stupid.


Right, so trolling, as per usual. Reported. Have a stellar day!

OK there, as long as your having fun
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#25 - 2015-05-27 17:36:34 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:

CCP would have the ability to decide what players could change about each ship. Your assumptions are really really dumb.

So, what factors can you imagine players being able to tamper with without breaking what game balance there is?

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
Iain Cariaba
#26 - 2015-05-27 18:36:05 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ares Desideratus wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
I'm not in favor of lag. ฏ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ Roll

Here are some tips to avoid lag

- Own a quality PC
- Stay out of Jita
- Keep settings on low if you have to

Hope that was helpful


Not helpful if you are lagging because the server is struggling to send your client all the info it needs to load grid like every single variation of ships currently present.

I still think it could be done. you guys are just lazy and stupid.

I know I'm not one that should be pointing out people trolling, but this guy doesn't even try to hide it. Everyone in thread disagrees with him, but it's because of us, not because of him.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-05-27 18:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Ares Desideratus
James Baboli wrote:
Ares Desideratus wrote:

CCP would have the ability to decide what players could change about each ship. Your assumptions are really really dumb.

So, what factors can you imagine players being able to tamper with without breaking what game balance there is?

Here's one.

On a Punisher hull, you could modify the ship to be able to have a 3-mid-slot, 3-low-slot layout instead of the current 2-mid-slot, 4-low-slot layout. And you could switch back and forth in the Ship Editor whenever you wanted.

This is just one example yet already you can see that it would actually ADD more balance to the game by making an otherwise mediocre ship more versatile and subsequently more dangerous.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-05-27 18:53:03 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

I know I'm not one that should be pointing out people trolling, but this guy doesn't even try to hide it. Everyone in thread disagrees with him, but it's because of us, not because of him.

Alright, that's enough out of you. It's time to put the troll card away.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#29 - 2015-05-27 22:30:33 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:

I know I'm not one that should be pointing out people trolling, but this guy doesn't even try to hide it. Everyone in thread disagrees with him, but it's because of us, not because of him.

Alright, that's enough out of you. It's time to put the troll card away.

Girls, girls, you can all be trolling. It's not an exclusive thing, and the trollympics aren't until the next ishtar thread.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#30 - 2015-05-27 22:34:33 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
James Baboli wrote:
Ares Desideratus wrote:

CCP would have the ability to decide what players could change about each ship. Your assumptions are really really dumb.

So, what factors can you imagine players being able to tamper with without breaking what game balance there is?

Here's one.

On a Punisher hull, you could modify the ship to be able to have a 3-mid-slot, 3-low-slot layout instead of the current 2-mid-slot, 4-low-slot layout. And you could switch back and forth in the Ship Editor whenever you wanted.

This is just one example yet already you can see that it would actually ADD more balance to the game by making an otherwise mediocre ship more versatile and subsequently more dangerous.

So, punisher now goes from 4/2/4 to 4/3/3 as a standard layout as it can now ft the standard 3 slot tackle+prop mid setup, while maintaining fairly high damage or tank with added range control, or turns into a cap booster + long point + prop kiter, just like everything else with 3 mids. Yey for being able to instantly homogenize everything now, and absolutely breaking some ships which need one slot moved to be absolutely break everything.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2015-05-28 02:20:55 UTC
Punisher would become a usable ship. As it is currently it is one of the worst tech 1 combat frigates

Explain how adding more fitting variations is the same as homogenizing everything.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#32 - 2015-05-28 05:39:28 UTC
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