EVE General Discussion

Well, we know players shooting other players ships is definitely PVP,
and shooting rats is PVE,
but the business of manufacturing and trading... now is that PVE... don't think so.

Take your word for it.
Only one I remember from High Sec is Vimsy because they post on the forums and they piled two alliances onto a newbie corp that just wanted some good fights to learn PVP.

No one who dislikes grinding for ISK need do so. Work an extra hour in the real world, buy a PLEX, issue solved. Even driving slower on the freeway makes ISK at around 300 mil per hour. (That is, drive slower, spend more time getting there, save gas money. Use saved money to buy PLEX. You get 300 million ISK for every extra hour you spend on the freeway.)

Just for the S&G of it, I'll give you a serious answer.

I don't PVP because I have a TBI that makes it impossible for me to respond to the rapid flow of information and make rapid decisions that are necessary. Even following the FC's orders places my side in jeopardy as it takes me up to 10 seconds to respond to orders. Don't even try and tell me anything more than "jump and hold cloak" because it simply won't be understood enough to remember.

Now, I quit PVE'ing after my first six months or so playing when I decided to move to null sec, once I thought I found a corp that understood my limitations. That didn't work out so well and I'm not going to do drama to explain why. Back to empire for another six months until I finally found a corp made up of mostly veterans who clearly understood.

Now, not being able to PVP didn't mean I didn't want the thrill. All this time I was working on my reflexes and muscle memory while mining. For a little over two years I lived in null being the main provider of minerals for our corp, and I seldom lost a ship, and I have multiple accounts and I make a crud ton of ISK. The thrill for me is living in an area long enough to learn the frequent neuts, what they fly, what predictable path they use through the systems and then avoid them. Top that off with having to be ready to squad warp my guys at a seconds notice if a neut is missed by intel or comes through a WH, or there was a log off in system that we didnt get informed about and, for me, that's FUN.

That corp has folded and I was very fortunate to find this one. We're giving WH life a try while this fozzysov BS gets worked out and I'm having to adapt my playstyle to a lack of local. I'll either learn and adapt or I won't be able to be part of he team. If it turns out I'm a liability after much trying to not get 'sploded then I'll make a decission how to procede from there.

It's not that I like being prey, that's why I seldom get blown up. But I hate pve because it doesn't give me a "rush". Keeping my miners from being content does. Managing cycles while dealing with rats while watching for neuts? Big freeking rush - for my sandbox.

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Whipple

When I go out and do peeveepee I *facepalm* my keyboard when I fall asleep.

Darn imprint of my keyboard on my fored ouch

And how those tears are sooo tasty to lol

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OP

Look up the Bartle Test. It is the ONLY psychological exam that applies to gamers and gaming, and it will give you the answers you're looking for.

The reasons I PvE more than PvP is as following:

- Solo PvP barely exists - always gate camps, always small gangs, always baits
- In small gangs, you don't know what people bring to the table, in terms of computer/internet connection. A "Socket Closed" error can kill a small gang; game lag due to poor computer
- Time zones - my friends do PvP when I'm at work and vice versa
- Comms - I can't multitask between my wife and game
- PLEX - as long as you're allowed to work and buy game time, I prefer spending 20 bucks treating my friends with pizza
- I "dislike" the Combat exploration (sometimes) when it comes to people who believe when they find someone in a site = competition or they are allowed to steal - Karma strikes instant sometimes
- ISK - PvP, at one point, will make you lose your ship, implants => without ISK to replace the ship loss + the Implants => No PvP
- Modules/Implants - I'm still a new player - Skill points gain is important for me => I cannot bring +5s in PvP or Deadspace modules - unless I have the ISK to not care if I lose them - which brings us to the point above
- Some of the terms people use in Gangs I might not understand => people yelling at me for being a noob => frustration => I will dislike doing fleet PvP => since there is no solo => no PvP at all
- PvE has no obligations like PvP - If I wanna do a site or don't, depends on me => people might call you names if you bail a fleet (and we all know the repertoire)

And reasons can be a lot, but primaries are:
1. ISK
2. People
3. Specific Limitations

I don't judge people who gate camp, if that's what's making them happy, so be it. If something makes you happy, you should keep doing it. Don't try to understand concepts like "why people PvE more than PvP?" or "Why do females act like they do?" etc

Play the game as you like, as you enjoy!