EVE General Discussion

AFAIK, most of those only require npc corp standings. Not too sure about the faction ship BPCs

FW will get you high standing quickly. With diplomacy at 4 you shouldn't go beyond -2 on the opposite faction. So yes, there is currently a way to get good faction standing, except its not the carebear way. I don't think anything be changed in this department. Grind or use the option you already have.

I am very surprised by the difference in reaction between "I want to do less work" threads, depending on who starts them.

I think it has more to do with asking for general "quality of life" changes vs "wahwah game too hard", or the fact that faction grinding is just an annoying PITA no matter who you are (carebear, nullbear, 1337pvps, etc.) that beyond bittervet "back in my day..." grumbling most could see the appeal in a easier grind for standings. And in the case of tags for standings it is a idea that is already in the game for sec status (a much more important stat overall IMO) so there's no real reason not to expand it to faction standings. Hell, I could see it causing more people to pick up FW PVP with something other than throwaway alts and cause those wars to expand into something bigger, which would be cool,.

Tags for Sec Status was an amazing improvement to the game. Not only did it give people another option to fix their sec status, but it also added a unique resource to lowsec that is both accessible and available. It helped veterans and new players alike.

There is no reason not to do this for faction standings, so long as it works just like sec status and is only able to repair it up to zero. Ideally the tags could only be found in NPC null belt spawns, and would add a much needed income stream. Faction standings mechanics are a dinosaur from an older time - I'm sure we all know people who's game play experience has become all too centered on PvE, not by choice, but because the standings mechanics were not adequately explained in game.

Frankly, I don't want to do any work. I have limited login time and will pay other players practically anything to avoid a grind.

And why not when the alternative is that parts of the game are blocked for me? There is no way I would do that grind again. Too frustrating. The last "mission" I received took me nine jumps through highsec in a frigate to deliver a piece of paper. Seriously? This is not what I log in for. I would much rather be out there trying to kill people or risking a nice, shiny ship.

Anything related to COSMOS Missions is in a state of utter disrepair, like the Datacenter missions. Tried doing a few of them the other day and it broke my Neocom and Agent tracking.

I'd suggest a revamp to that whole aspect of PvE but I'd probably be lynched by an angry mob! Can't blame them really, so many things out there that need more attention than the stuff I find relevant to my interests.

Removing asymptotic standing gains would go along way.

This is true. All that stuff at top left has disappeared more than a few times during the cosmos missions.

If I'm understanding this thread and what is being suggested here correctly the work would still have to be done (by someone). The "reward" of standings is what is being transferred (for a fee, of course).

It's like tags for security, except with standings. You go grind those 'tags' (or 'certificates of job completion', 'vouchers', etc.) for me and I'll pay you a nice fee for your troubles. It's just another service one would be able to sell or buy.

I guess there's a want for a more standardized way of trading or selling standings services. I'm kind of on the fence about it. On the one hand it's a great way to open up a whole new market for people who want to sell standings to others and stuff, but have difficulties doing so due to timezones, free time available, etc. People who would have difficulties scheduling a regular time to boost standings for another player. We could also turn the standings gains into physical items that need to be hauled from mission hub to a trade hub or other destination which would create the potential for danger or risk much like the transportation of other goods.

On the other hand we lose the potential for scamming in the form of a buyer skipping out on a bill or a standings seller taking the money and running. It also doesn't require players to 'work together' or cooperate or socialize. Normally to buy standings you would have to contact a seller or have someone 'hook you up' with a seller, set up a time or a schedule and join a fleet so they can run missions for you, etc. With Tags4Standings the only socialization involved is in the market of a station.

However, regardless of the method there should always be a 'consequence' in the form of a negative faction hit for someone turning in faction tags. I.E. you turn in a 'Level 4 Security Certificate of Service (Caldari)', you would gain faction standings with the Caldari State (and its allies), but still lose standings with their 'enemies.' You shouldn't be able to acquire positive faction standings with no negative standings hit (except in the limited form of the SoE arc, etc. which has an actual reason for such outcomes). Turning in the tag or certificate or voucher should be the same as stating, "Yes, I helped (Insert Faction)." You are taking responsibility for the actions that warranted that standings increase/loss.

How?