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Machariel PVE Fit and skills

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W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-05-23 18:25:02 UTC
You dont spend enough time in the missions for gankers to reliably probe you out, and if you actually spam dscan not much will be able to get to you (obviously warp if a shitton of dessies/any other ganky group come within 0.1 au).
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2015-05-23 18:38:16 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
You dont spend enough time in the missions for gankers to reliably probe you out, and if you actually spam dscan not much will be able to get to you (obviously warp if a shitton of dessies/any other ganky group come within 0.1 au).


It will die on a gate or undocking at the station.

The pimp one I linked isn't going to bring all the ganks to the yard, cos they're like, coming to get a gank on yours.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-05-23 19:07:04 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Afaik thats the best isk/h fit for the mach.

For whom? The mission runner or the ganker?


Brb moving 4 tornado alts
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-05-23 20:01:10 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
You dont spend enough time in the missions for gankers to reliably probe you out, and if you actually spam dscan not much will be able to get to you (obviously warp if a shitton of dessies/any other ganky group come within 0.1 au).


It will die on a gate or undocking at the station.

The pimp one I linked isn't going to bring all the ganks to the yard, cos they're like, coming to get a gank on yours.


Im not saying his fit is best, but the idea is.


Also, if you die on a undock you are a horrible bad who has no idea what instas are.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-05-23 23:08:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
The only problem I have with my mach is running out of cap boosters to run the shield booster on tougher missions like WC and The Blockade. I could squeeze a bit more in using faction boosters but that on top of faction ammo really chews into profits. It is a very fun ship to fly and I'm already doing over 800 DPS excluding drones, despite having incomplete skills for projectile turrets and Minnie BS at 3


The blockade can be done in stages, dont shoot the trigger for the next wave until last.

I tend to skip worlds collide as I can do several missions in the time it takes to do that one.


The problem with the blockade is the damping, if I'm thinking of the right one. Maybe the assault too, if you run it against serpentis rats. Having to close inside 25k to kill the damping HACs is a hassle. But I usually omni tank, fitting a thermic and kinetic invuln instead of 2x adaptives will help I think.

If standings weren't an issue I'd just skip everything except dread pirate scarlet and the damsel.


Might be worth swapping to a vargur for such missions.



That's a loooooong train. Honestly just wondering if I should get a rattlesnake like all the other peasants.

I have near full drone skills and good shield, would just need Caldari BS 4 and then possibly some missile skills. Though the snake is probably fine with just sentries and heavies no? Terribly boring to fly and slow though...
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2015-05-23 23:46:24 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:


That's a loooooong train. Honestly just wondering if I should get a rattlesnake like all the other peasants.

I have near full drone skills and good shield, would just need Caldari BS 4 and then possibly some missile skills. Though the snake is probably fine with just sentries and heavies no? Terribly boring to fly and slow though...


It will work but it wont be as fast as a turret based ship.
Kara Searae
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-05-24 09:44:02 UTC
So is the fit I posted good enough for level 4 missions?
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-05-24 09:54:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
Kara Searae wrote:
I see there is a lot of shared opinions.
I have been watching around on the internet and I came across this video with this fit, tell me what you think about it :)

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Is this good for level 4 missions?


[Machariel, Machariel Domination edition]

Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Damage Control II
Domination Nanofiber Structure

Domination EM Ward Field
Domination Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Domination X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Domination 100MN Microwarpdrive

Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon
[Empty High slot]

Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II


Republic Fleet Warrior x5
Republic Fleet Valkyrie x5
Caldari Navy Vespa x5


replace all those with T2 version until you are comfortable to pimp your ship and no to rage quit if you lose it

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Kara Searae
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-05-24 20:00:47 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Kara Searae wrote:
I see there is a lot of shared opinions.
I have been watching around on the internet and I came across this video with this fit, tell me what you think about it :)

*** *** ***

Is this good for level 4 missions?


[Machariel, Machariel Domination edition]

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replace all those with T2 version until you are comfortable to pimp your ship and no tto rage quit if you loose it


If I lose it I'll just buy a new one ;P
Thanks for all the answers I will try out some of the fits ^^
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2015-05-24 20:14:31 UTC
Kara Searae wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Kara Searae wrote:
I see there is a lot of shared opinions.
I have been watching around on the internet and I came across this video with this fit, tell me what you think about it :)

*** *** ***

Is this good for level 4 missions?


[Machariel, Machariel Domination edition]

****


replace all those with T2 version until you are comfortable to pimp your ship and no to rage quit if you lose it


If I lose it I'll just buy a new one ;P
Thanks for all the answers I will try out some of the fits ^^


Just be self prepaired before accepting missions, look through evesurvival.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

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