Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Originally posted this with my alt, xxSketchxx, here is my proposal for a Tech 3 Harvester Cruiser.

Subsystems

Harvester Subsystems:

Ore Yield – 25% bonus to mining laser yield; 5/0/0 (5 turrets); 500m3 cargo

Covert Ops Reconfiguration – 40% bonus to mining laser yield; 99.5% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use; 90 second cloaking activation delay after deactivation of mining laser(s); 4/0/0 (3 turrets); 500m3 cargo

Deep Core Extraction - 7.5% bonus to Mercoxit Mining Crystal Yield multiplier; 50% reduction in mining laser optimal range; 5/0/0 (5 turrets); 400m3 cargo

Harvesters Efficiency Optimizer – 10% decreased duration of gas harvesters; 5/0/0 (5 turrets); 350m3 cargo


Defensive Subsystems:

Adaptive Shielding – 5% bonus to all shield resistances per level; 1/1/0

Amplification Node – 10% bonus to booster effectiveness per level; 0/2/0

Industrial Processor – 5% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman gang links per level; 99% reduction in CPU need for Gang Link modules; Only 1 Gang Link assist module may be active at a given time; 1/0/1

Signature Optimizer – 5% reduction in signature radius per level; 0/1/1


Engineering Subsystems:

Capacitor Regeneration Matrix – 5% reduction in capacitor recharge rate per level; 0/0/3

Power Core Multiplier – 5% bonus to power output per level; 1/0/2

Industrial Field Enhancement - 10% increase in range of Mining Lasers and Gas Harvesters per level; 0/0/3

Industrial Capacitor Optimization – 5% reduced capacitor usage of Mining Lasers and Gas Harvesters per level; 1/0/2


Electronic Subsystems:

Harvester CPU Efficiency Gate – 5% reduction in CPU penalties of mining laser upgrade modules per level; 20% bonus to survey scanner range per level; 0/3/1

Obfuscation Manifold – 15% bonus to ECM target jammer strength per level; 0/4/0

Emergent Locus Analyzer – 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level; 0/4/0

Dissolution Sequencer –15% bonus to ship sensor strength per level; 0/3/1


Propulsion Subsystems:

Interdiction Nullifier – Immunity to non-targeted interdiction; 0/0/0

Hull Construction Reconfiguration – 10% reduction in mass per level; 0/0/0

Industrial Expansion Bay – +5000m3 storage hold for ore and gas per level; -10% agility per level; 0/0/1

4th Propulsion subsystem - Work in Progress

Some hull info

Base: 50m3 drone bay and 50mbit bandwidth

O.R.E Harvester Cruiser Skill Bonus: Can deploy 1 additional mining drone per level.




All numbers are rough figures just to give an idea of the possible bonuses. The mining bonuses have been fleshed out to some degree to make them competitive but not on par with that of a hulk. All configurations that emulate a role that has a specialized ship for the role will be inferior to their specialized cousins, though may have some unique features. For instance, the Industrial Command Processor gives a 5% bonus to effectiveness per level but can only fit 1 link without needing command processers to allow for more gang links.

Some potential unique features:

• covert ops miner (between retriever and covetor mining capabilities)

• ECM defense (strength equivalent to that of kitsune with current bonus)

• interdiction nullification

• potentially difficult to probe

• bonused gas harvester

• Osprey = 656/min (3x MDCM II, T2 crystals)

• Retriever = 755/min (2x T2 strips and T2 crystals)

• T3 Covert Ops = 981m3/min (3x MDCM II, T2 crystals)

• Covetor = 1132m3/min (T2 strips and T2 crystals)

• T3 miner = 1226m3/min (5x MDCM II, T2 crystals)

• Hulk = 1302m3/min (T2 strips and T2 crystals)

O.R.E Harvester Cruiser [Rank 5]:

Advanced Spaceship Command 5

O.R.E. Harvester Subsystem 1

-Mining 5

-Astrogeology 3

O.R.E. Defensive Subsystem 1

-Shield Operation 5

-Shield Management 3

O.R.E. Engineering Subsystem 1

-Engineering 5

-Energy Management 3

O.R.E. Electronics Subsystem 1

-Electronics 5

-Survey 3

O.R.E. Propulsion Subsystem 1

-Navigation 5

-Evasive Maneuvering 3


I think these subsystems will allow for a unique and versatile ship. Furthermore, should T3 one day be able to change subsystems at POSs, the T3 Harvester will truly come into its own in terms of versatility and adaptability. In addition to potentially being an industrialist’s wet dream, this ship will also provide yet another juicy target for pirates abound.

I will post below with xxSketchxx to verify that he is my alt.

nicely fleshed out idea,

it really comes into its own with the cov-ops, althought the mass reduction will **** ppl off with the whole wormholes are feeding to many minerals into the market problem!

however, the idea for gas mining is brillient, esp with the bonuses to scanning. nice work. although a bit of fine tuening needs doing. such as the 90 second delay to cloaking afeter mining lasor? it kind of negates the point of it, as ud just fit a normal cloak to a higher mining subsystem cuz ul be able to ninja better.

This was a result of discussion in the original thread. The idea is that the covert cloak allows you to get to where you want to be and mine somewhat effectively. It was agreed that one should not be able to simply cloak and slink away at the first sign of danger, hence the 90 second delay. Without the delay, one would be able to sit >2k km away from an asteroid and cloak as soon as a potentially hostile ship got on grid and then leave at their leisure. This would simply be too safe.

On closer examination, this is just a T3 mining barge...

I would also like to fit a t3 industrial ship to fit the role of a hauler, that is idea for traders to move goods in and out of null sec.

Also the cloaky sub needs 5 high slots for a probe launcher otherwise it's pointless for anyone using the ship outside of null sec.. Anyway i'm contradicting myself now as i'm sure CCP will be deciding the details

Okay, that sounds good then



Couldn't the same be said for this T3 mining barge idea? I think having a hauler that can cloak, scan it's way through WH space, have a good tank and the ability to defend it's self with things like ECM would be awesome... Maybe increase the align time if an expanded cargo sub is used.

well currently, the max cargo you could get on this ship that uses a covert ops cloak and interdiction nullifier would be 1437.50 m^3

500 m^3 base + 50% for level 5 industrial + 5 expanded cargo II @ 27.5% each

Any thought as to what the T3 industrial book itself would do because overheating is not all that useful in mining.

and yes I still think this is a great idea.

you know, I was gonna troll you for that post, but then I got to thinking about it . . . T3 is about being more versatile than T2 but not necessarily better, and you do have a point that it is essentially three iterations of a mining barge and a dedicated gas harvesting ship.

Do you have any suggestions for other industrial roles this ship could fill?

Maybe instead of the mercoxit miner which basically overlaps with the regular miner, it could mine ice or haul PI mats or something? IDK

I don't really know about that 25,000 m3 gas bay (... it just sounds.... too op), but EVE sure could use a dedicated gas harvesting ship! And the idea of T3 Blockade Runner is nice too.

In my opinion though, it'd be too much work redoing the whole T3 system onto another ship class. It's just gonna make the game too complicated by having so many subsystems/classes (people have already been complaining about that regarding new addition of some ships)
I'd rather ask for a subsystem addition to the current existing T3s then.. why would you want a specific Industrial T3 class and skill? Just make an "ORE Subsystem" pack.

Voted

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Bumping.