Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP,

Pointing to 24km is a critical part of the game. If I, as a mere peasant (because I don't pay to win), could point to 30 or 32km, whilst flying 40% faster than I otherwise could, it would open up innumerable fitting options. I literally cannot fathom the way I would fit ships if I had links because the difference in fittings is not simply dramatic, it is UN ******* BELIEVABLE. It is also un ******* reasonable. Unfortunately, I am a mere peasant who chooses not to pay to win, so I cannot reasonably compete with people who do pay to win.

Links (which are a disgustingly bad part of Eve) completely change the dynamic of PvP. Unfortunately, you CCP, for some unconceivable reason, not only allow links, but you add ships to the game which point farther than Interceptors (ie Garmurs). This is hilariously stupid for a number of reasons. These are things I should not have to explain.

Please, stop doing things that are so, SO, unbelievably terrible.

That is all.

Yeah, you probably will continue to do things that are unbelievably ridiculous. That is your own prerogative.

The problem is that the game design rewards rock-paper-scissor style player, rather than in space adaptation.

You brought the wrong ship? You lose (if you didn't Dscan, see the fight was probably a fit that your fit would lose to, and then just not try).

Station dock games where people hang around attack someone, who docks up, and then keep waiting around, boring both them and the intended victim.
Hard counters of gank vs tank.
Kite loses to brawl automatically close range, and brawl loses to kite automatically long range.

If there was a way for brawl fit ships to get into range to fight a kiter, such that both sides went right down to the wire for hull hp before one or the other exploded, then you could progress to fighting linked players in the same way.

Links simply make the hard counter rock-paper-scissor style of gameplay, which EVE has, that much harder counter.

There is no slippery slope in EVE, only cliffs. They'd have to rethink how they design the game's system.

I personally would like to be able to MWD a brawl boat into a kiter to stand a chance of beating them, for a real fight, rather than hit Dscan and warp off from everything but a select few possible engagements I can win or ruthlessly slaughter.

Unless you've done it yourself, don't tell others this works. AFK alt linkboats use cap stable high speed to avoid being scanned down.

And what if that linked pilot has the 30km on their ship? You haven't solved the problem.

I never said its easy, in fact i know it is not. I do know however that it can be done...

And yes the linked ship can buy a shiney thing as well...

However you choose to put yourself at a disadvantage going out solo... You know you are undocking without a buddy to run reps or boosts, or maybe some kind of very fast interceptor/dramiel/etc or whatever else you want to bring. To me this is as silly as engaging someone on a gate and then complaining when they have friends jump through from the other side...

Sure you thought the odds were better then they are IRL but well, **** happens...

Reported for ranting.

there is and there are many guides on how to do this look up sling shot/yo-yo

I personally would like to be able to MWD a brawl boat into a kiter to stand a chance of beating them, for a real fight, rather than hit Dscan and warp off from everything but a select few possible engagements I can win or ruthlessly slaughter.[/quote]

and if you could just MWD right to that kiter how does that kiter keep at kite range?


there are way through piloting skill that you can over come a fit built to counter yours or for you to get out of the fight after engaging

links give you an advantage utilize them you don't need to "pay to win" just get a friend

probably done to you know....tackle the inty before it gets away. Mild attempt at balance...have sometthing that can out tackle the tackle and if luck there can burn in fast enough before the inty burns off to then gtfo if a really good day.

Link rant....its an mmo, kind of expected people will buddy up. If they want a nice single player experience lots of games give this that don't cost a monthly sub. Hell I bough 2 this weekend on steam sales to get to at some point. Saved me 20+ dollars easy...worth the buy now and play later.

Some of these buddies look for more from eve than run big guns, shoot stuff. Some people dig the various support roles in game. To include fleet boosting. If we wanted APM focused fire fire fire fire all day everyday we' be heavy into FPS game play

Also a useless appeal.
Interceptors are over powered.
Garmurs are silly expensive.

Links boost a fleet, if you kill their booster that drops.
Links help fleet on fleet be less of an alpha race.

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