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How to turn a negative EVEmindset into a positive?
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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#41 - 2015-05-22 12:03:59 UTC
Anuri Suaraj wrote:

PvE in EVE is the second worst that I have ever seen in any MMO game ever (the first place holder is World of Warplanes).
It's just so scripted, repetitive and lame.



PvE in EvE is the worst I have ever seen in a MMO ... but then again, EvE is the only MMO I ever played. Straight
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-05-24 11:46:08 UTC
The simplest answer is hook up with a different group.

"EVE's game play is..." - it's not about game play anywhere near as much is it is a social setting where you interact with others.

If you are finding yourself fixating on the negative then find a different group to join up with who you will enjoy your R&R time with.

If you are playing solo all the time and hitting this - you are either playing the wrong game or you need to see a shrink.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#43 - 2015-05-24 11:50:23 UTC
Brave and Goons are / were built upon, "LOL I failed so hard but had fun. LOLOLOL!!1!"

That is one way, celebrating failures.

The way I advocate is build or find a good group of people and the positive experiences will flow naturally.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2015-05-24 23:08:17 UTC
Quote:

"I would say in this context that you need more and bigger friends to bully the bullies. That is not to say hire someone to do it, but make lots of friends, perhaps even befriend the bullies."
"The player would need friends, to help encourage the player to take the steps needed, to overcome their feelings."
"if you are playing this game with people (as in friends, which likely be your corpy :p) you'll be enjoying this GAME more"
"The simplest answer is hook up with a different group."
"find a good group of people"


So, you see, the answer does not lie within yourself, but within your fellow man. You are helpless without them. You must submit yourself to them, to their judgement, to their whim. Give yourself unto others so that they may fix you, you broken little sheep. It will not even cost you everything you have. We'll give you a discount. Big smile

But then, if only others have the power to fix you, you might wonder who broke you in the first place and how did they do it? You might even begin to question whether or not you are what is broken and how we even determine something to be broken at all.

Life EVE Online can be so confusing.
Kaye Kaye
Doomheim
#45 - 2015-05-25 00:29:02 UTC
The game is only a place holder until a more balanced PVE/PVP game gets released that is in this genre. A game where a gamer can get an equal play experience no matter their play style.

1) Eve is designed to be unfair.
2) Eve is dark and tailored to be negative.
3) CCP promotes bad behavior, and players run with it, in game and on the forums.
4) There is no fixing something that is designed to be the way it is.
5) It's only confusing to those who don't acclimate to it.
6) Eve is a PVP game with PVE as a side line.
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2015-05-25 01:09:35 UTC
Kaye Kaye wrote:
The game is only a place holder until a more balanced PVE/PVP game gets released that is in this genre. A game where a gamer can get an equal play experience no matter their play style.

1) Eve is designed to be unfair.
2) Eve is dark and tailored to be negative.
3) CCP promotes bad behavior, and players run with it, in game and on the forums.
4) There is no fixing something that is designed to be the way it is.
5) It's only confusing to those who don't acclimate to it.
6) Eve is a PVP game with PVE as a side line.



pretty much this.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
Black Pedro
Mine.
#47 - 2015-05-25 08:02:55 UTC
Kaye Kaye wrote:
The game is only a place holder until a more balanced PVE/PVP game gets released that is in this genre. A game where a gamer can get an equal play experience no matter their play style.

1) Eve is designed to be unfair.
2) Eve is dark and tailored to be negative.
3) CCP promotes bad behavior, and players run with it, in game and on the forums.
4) There is no fixing something that is designed to be the way it is.
5) It's only confusing to those who don't acclimate to it.
6) Eve is a PVP game with PVE as a side line.


Aside from point 3, this is all correct. CCP has strict rules against personal insults, hateful speech, harassment and other forms of "bad behavior" and do enforce them quite rigorously.

CCP set out to make a dark, PvP-centric sandbox where much of the game is designed to be unfair and player freedom is large. Many people enjoy this unique gaming experience, but it is not everyone's cup of tea. I am not sure I would call one of the few MMOs to last and grow for 12 years a "placeholder", so if Eve is not the space-themed MMO for you, there is no shame in playing something else you enjoy more.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Maxi Dap
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2015-05-25 08:34:46 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Anuri Suaraj wrote:

PvE in EVE is the second worst that I have ever seen in any MMO game ever (the first place holder is World of Warplanes).
It's just so scripted, repetitive and lame.



PvE in EvE is the worst I have ever seen in a MMO ... but then again, EvE is the only MMO I ever played. Straight


Actually PvE is the best out of many games in EvE. The fact that you can be subject to pvp while you do pve is simply the only variable needed to keep it interesting.
Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2015-05-27 20:18:54 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
I keep going because I have faith that small hybrid turret 3 will be even more fun than small hybrid turret 2



Underrated post
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#50 - 2015-05-27 20:30:12 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
[quote=Atomic Virulent]
You cannot play this game with a positive mindset and expect or receive ANY level of success.


Define success and find out that your definition is 180 degrees from someone else's and have your point of view obliterated. I am an extremely positive EvE player and I have untold success.

How? By basing it on what *I* want to do and not what I think others want me to do.

-Trained into a Confessor
-Purchased an Ishtar
-Solo L4 missions
-Made 500m exploring

That's how I succeeded. How will you?

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2015-05-29 11:19:40 UTC
Freya Sertan wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
[quote=Atomic Virulent]
You cannot play this game with a positive mindset and expect or receive ANY level of success.


Define success and find out that your definition is 180 degrees from someone else's and have your point of view obliterated. I am an extremely positive EvE player and I have untold success.

How? By basing it on what *I* want to do and not what I think others want me to do.

-Trained into a Confessor
-Purchased an Ishtar
-Solo L4 missions
-Made 500m exploring

That's how I succeeded. How will you?


There's some pretty universal definitions of success. 99% people believe that "certain" people who live at home with parents past X age with no job are "losers". Sure, truth is subjective, and all that, but when a large majority of the population disagrees, there might be something to it, if not the least of which is getting something right. If I choose not to believe that fire burns me, it'd be my truth, but I'd still get burned.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
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