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RE: Will Eve Ever die? (2011) Nope!
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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-05-23 17:41:17 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Silence youngun. Back in the day we had run left to right, up hill, six miles. Every day.


Back in my mom´s and dad´s days they had to ski to school for miles, not kidding.
flakeys
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-05-23 18:32:39 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Pong was freaking awesome... til the Atari 2600, the Intellivision and Colecovision came out.
Then the Texas Instruments comp came out and it was Z0MG... then the Trash 80 and the VIC 20. Mind blown.
Shortly thereafter came the god of all game machines, the C-64. It's reign held for decades.

God, I'm a freaking dinosaur.
I think I shall go get drunk now.



God i miss my c64 😕

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-05-23 20:04:31 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Pong was freaking awesome... til the Atari 2600, the Intellivision and Colecovision came out.
Then the Texas Instruments comp came out and it was Z0MG... then the Trash 80 and the VIC 20. Mind blown.
Shortly thereafter came the god of all game machines, the C-64. It's reign held for decades.

God, I'm a freaking dinosaur.
I think I shall go get drunk now.



God i miss my c64 😕


I miss Amiga and Atari, wish they release those again, just with a DVD for all their games (that come with it ofc).

Good business hint for somebody,

Connected to EvE or thread? Retro sells.
Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#24 - 2015-05-23 21:31:33 UTC
With the changes to the skill Q the online numbers are no longer a good indicator of how well eve is doing, however having said that the fact that CCP is now not showing their finance details (I know they no longer have to, but they know full well the eve player base checks these, so can only conclude it is more negative than positive otherwise the eve financiers being happy with it can't be bad for self perpetuating advertisement) scares me.

Eve has alot resting on Valkyrie, given the footage alot of work must have gone into it, where there is alot of work there is alot of cash and well, we say how WoD went!


CCP need to invest some RL isk on advertising, does not have to be an ad in the middle of the world cup or superbowl etc, but some TV adds in between reruns of star trek, wars, star gate and the billion other sci fi shows people would not go amiss. I know after 12 years I will be personally pissed off if eve were to die over poor plans for expansion (or the very least self sustaining)
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#25 - 2015-05-23 23:26:45 UTC
Eve died in 2010.

/thread

How to win EVE
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-05-24 00:06:52 UTC
Xtreem wrote:
With the changes to the skill Q the online numbers are no longer a good indicator of how well eve is doing,


Actually, what people used to do, log in for short time to set new skill queue, it should not really show in http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility averages, as i understand it, because that average is also from time spent logged (so each player playing for an hour would counter 30 or 20 skill loggers that hour).

However, if your point were that setting skills used to keep people logging in, you might have a point there (that were also CCP´s reason and point for short skill queues until recently).
When they logged in to set skills, they stayed for longer time, even for just something trivial like a chat.

Did CCP then succeed with that change, as players certainly are happy, but dropping numbers give bad image in overall (to both players and possible financiers even)?
Very mind blowing if you really start to think about it RollWhat?
Marsha Mallow
#27 - 2015-05-24 00:41:44 UTC
0bama Barack Hussein wrote:
Did CCP then succeed with that change, as players certainly are happy, but dropping numbers give bad image in overall (to both players and possible financiers even)?
Very mind blowing if you really start to think about it RollWhat?

There's no point publishing FinStats to an audience who can't read them (but think they can) and use them to pursue ingame agendas and attack the company. I've bumped into 3 accountants ingame, and one did a detailed review a few years back in the MD forums which more or less boiled down to 'stop yapping, dickheads.' The thing we're not seeing is the amount of revenue gained from Plex/GTC sales vs subs - and tbh I don't think that should ever be made public, because it looks to be a really significant chunk of revenue. Which is questionable in all sorts of ways I'd rather not get into.

Anyway, on topic: nope. I don't think Ultima Online died either. If anything it's been idealised after the fact, and there's evidence the original EvE designers were heavily influenced by UO. If CCP crashed and burned either a core of devs would split off to form a project in the same vein (I think this happened a while back with Perpetuum) or the playerbase itself would mass migrate to other games. Either way you'll probably see people announcing they are ex-EvE players in other games in 20 years, even if they did nothing but grind.

*not impressed that the person I'm quoting has his surname blocked by the forums. Saddam was executed many years ago, but his surname is shared by millions of people. Blocking that name is excessive moderation and verging upon political and cultural censorship. I'm betting Mugabe, Amin, Pinochet and Stalin aren't censored, and it'd be laughable to censor Bush or Churchill. If you're going to scratch out who you think is offensive from public view CCP, you better be ready to add a few to that list. Especially after the outrage from you when someone defaced your phallic monument by censoring a name.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Solecist Punk
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-05-24 00:53:22 UTC
Pen is not the word....
Marsha Mallow
#29 - 2015-05-24 01:03:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Marsha Mallow
Solecist Punk wrote:
Pen is not the word....

I'm writing something up on Titus Andronicus, which is at least as annoying as reading/viewing it Evil

But really, censoring names because of their political context on a gaming forum is absurd. Whoever implemented that is a fascist and an imbecile and I'll gladly eat a forum ban pointing it out.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#30 - 2015-05-24 01:04:34 UTC
The people that play and stay with EVE are part of the 20% in the real world that make things happen.

Those who come and can't handle EVE and leave are part of the 80% that just get by in the real world.

"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Kashadin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-05-24 01:14:12 UTC
Honestly, the number of people that I have met IRL that KNOW about EVE, but don't play and never have played and prolly will never play, is kinda funny. Like, they seem kinda interested but some of the bad rap the game has (spreadsheets online, bad communities, etc.) just puts a lot of gamers off.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#32 - 2015-05-24 08:57:27 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Bobaa Fett wrote:
"This next generation of gamers are not the same open minded, free thinking individuals that we were.



lol ... dude, please. Which generation am I? I played Pong in the seventies but started playing EvE in 2013? I am afraid you are not as elite as you think you are.

Then you must be the "getting ready for the old folks home" generation if you played pong in 70s.
Dude its 2015


Thanks for reminding me what a douche you are.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#33 - 2015-05-24 11:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
There are loads of other games that cater to those that want immediate self gratification.
EVE is too far behind to try grab that bunch and would die trying.

We need to point out that EVE takes a more mature mind and tell the kids to stop splashing around in one pond after another when there is an ocean to dive into.
It was not clear but I am talking about actively promoting EVE online, via social media or other games we play.
Example, "Hey, nice elf. Yeah, I just play DDO when I want to turn my brain off. Normally, I play EVE for something really engaging."

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2015-05-24 12:42:53 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:


But really, censoring names because of their political context on a gaming forum is absurd. Whoever implemented that is a fascist and an imbecile and I'll gladly eat a forum ban pointing it out.


I just find it funny that for once something written by me to any forums gets those **** marks Lol
(i usually try not to swear on my writings as i have time to think how to bring it out so i don´t need to)





Kashadin wrote:
Honestly, the number of people that I have met IRL that KNOW about EVE, but don't play and never have played and prolly will never play, is kinda funny. Like, they seem kinda interested but some of the bad rap the game has (spreadsheets online, bad communities, etc.) just puts a lot of gamers off.


Yep, it puts off EvEn existing players in EvE (like me), maybe we should agree to call EvE so far only "strategic MMO"???
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-05-24 13:53:06 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
There are loads of other games that cater to those that want immediate self gratification.
EVE is too far behind to try grab that bunch and would die trying.

We need to point out that EVE takes a more mature mind and tell the kids to stop splashing around in one pond after another when there is an ocean to dive into.
It was not clear but I am talking about actively promoting EVE online, via social media or other games we play.
Example, "Hey, nice elf. Yeah, I just play DDO when I want to turn my brain off. Normally, I play EVE for something really engaging."

I'm not sure whether "maturity" is the right attitude for EvE, and also it plays well with your brain off. P

I'm my own NPC alt.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#36 - 2015-05-24 14:42:01 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
There are loads of other games that cater to those that want immediate self gratification.
EVE is too far behind to try grab that bunch and would die trying.

We need to point out that EVE takes a more mature mind and tell the kids to stop splashing around in one pond after another when there is an ocean to dive into.
It was not clear but I am talking about actively promoting EVE online, via social media or other games we play.
Example, "Hey, nice elf. Yeah, I just play DDO when I want to turn my brain off. Normally, I play EVE for something really engaging."

That totally won't insult anyone. %)
Not that it's wrong, of course. ^_^

Anyhow, the goons do that now.
An upgraded version of the common forum swarming.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#37 - 2015-05-24 14:51:29 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Solecist Punk wrote:
Pen is not the word....

I'm writing something up on Titus Andronicus, which is at least as annoying as reading/viewing it Evil

But really, censoring names because of their political context on a gaming forum is absurd. Whoever implemented that is a fascist and an imbecile and I'll gladly eat a forum ban pointing it out.

I agree. Sadly I can not openly express my thoughts without mindless,
hating SJW calling me a Nazi for what are observable facts.

The bad people are winning and the only way to change it is by force.

The Bush clan was and still is far worse than Hitler ...
... and they supported him !

But censoring the pretendgoodguys? Nooo ... doesn't fit the narrative.

Anyhow... too offtopic.
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Wobblypops
Doomheim
#38 - 2015-05-24 23:31:01 UTC
Aren't we supposed to be hit by an asteroid by September or something?
Atomic Virulent
Embargo.
#39 - 2015-05-25 00:04:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Atomic Virulent
Will it ever die? no. But then if I said Diablo II was dead you'd believe me.. Nope, 111 viewers on Twitch atm for Diablo II...

Will Eve ever die?

The very worst case scenario is for Hilmar to lay off everyone but just enough servers/techs to keep it "online" and running in its current-at-that-time state and maybe 3-4 "managerial" staff.

He's got it made. If subs dropped to say, 2k then that's enough to keep a dozen or so families fed and the lights in the building on.

He does not care about the consequences of their recent (last year or so) shot in the dark spitballing moves. He'll be ok in the long run, but I'm sure another round of massive CCP layoffs is just around the corner.. This would be the 3rd in my 5 yrs. And I'm sure it will have NOTHING to do with losses of subscriptions.. nope. Look the other way here.........

Will it die? No. Not technically.
Velarra
#40 - 2015-05-25 00:12:07 UTC
Syndicate (original) by Bullfrog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicate_%28series%29

R.I.P.
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