Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This isnt even remotely as silly as i figured this thread was going to be...

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Agreed, Demand would set the price too.

T2 crystals would be obsolete for players to reach level 5 in a resource harvesting category.

a bean counters dream. Why not do deadspace and office crystals while your at it?

They could last a very long time and be pretty expensive from the loyalty point store. This would help ensure they have a much higher price than t2 crystals as well as a much higher value.

Where do you think the faction ammo currently on the market comes from? You keep suggesting ideas that show you don't have the first clue about supply, demand, opportunity cost, or any other basic economics. I would recommend at least learning something about how Eve works before suggesting further ways to make mining less profitable.

I'll give you a hint: Federation Navy ammo primarily comes from Gallente faction LP stores. Same goes for most of the other faction ammo (some comes from drops by faction rats). Once players convert T1 ammo into faction ammo by cashing in LP, they can use it to turn your shiny Hulk into a wreck or sell it on the market to other players (so that they can turn your shiny Hulk into a wreck). Suggesting ideas when you don't even understand how LP stores work is frankly pretty baffling.

So, in the case of faction mining crystals, they would presumably come from the Ore faction LP store. Players would run missions for Ore agents, earn LP, convert those LP into faction crystals, then export them to other regions for use.

As for the skill requirements for this bad idea, someone suggested requiring the appropriate processing skill to V. This makes them have a higher training requirement than the Tech II mining crystals. This is contrary to every other faction item in the game (faction has lower SP requirements than Tech II). Currently Tech I Arkonor mining crystals require Arkonor Processing III, while Tech II Arkonor mining crystals require Arkonor Processing IV. The Arkonor Processing skill does not itself make the miner any better - currently only a specialized reprocessing character gains any value from training the skill past four (which takes nearly two weeks to go from Level 4 to Level 5 with the proper remap and +5 implants, and does not affect mining yield, only reprocessing). In short, making Level 5 processing skills required to use anything is going to be a massive SP sink and make a lot of people very irritated.

And, when you start comparing faction ammo to Tech II ammo, the Tech II ammo always has highest maximum DPS (even if that comes at a cost of shorter range, worse tracking, crystals wear out faster, etc.). So, it would stand to reason that Tech II mining crystals would still be better than faction in terms of yield, but would wear out relatively quickly. For that to make sense, you would have to redo the skill requirements so that Tech I and faction mining crystals required the appropriate skills to Level 3, while Tech II required the skill at Level 4. Tech II, as the player produced item, would still be better in terms of maximum yield, but would wear out faster. It currently takes about 2d, 11h to train Arkonor Processing from Level 3 to Level 4, which is a reasonable time.

A reasonable progression, if one added faction mining crystals, would be:
Tech I mining crystal: 1.625 modifier, .10 volatility, 6m3 volume
Faction mining crystal: 1.7 modifier, .15 volatility, 5m3 volume
Tech II mining crystal: 1.75 modifier, .20 volatility, 10m3 volume

In short, your idea demonstrates a clear lack of understanding of basic Eve mechanics. You need to think about basic things before splurging out your threads.

No.

A universal crystal for all types. It burns out faster then the rest but adapts to whatever your harvesting.

A great deal of training would be required.

This isent about the mineral market.

I wouldent. This thread is about faction crystals, not mineral market prices.

I don't.

No.