EVE New Citizens Q&A

OP is looking for options for solo content including POS operation that do not involve engaging in direct ship-to-ship combat with other players as he has stated a preference for industrial-type work and/or possibly shooting AI.

The rest of this is people arguing about the definition of PvP, whether dictionary, or as applied by CCP.

I've provided a list as best I can at the top of page 2, and I'll stand by the majority of it, although if anyone wants to take what I wrote and elaborate further, they are plenty welcome to do so, this being the new citizens Q&A after all.

I didn't read all the posts......but like OP, I tend to do solo stuff, mainly so I can stop and take care of real life business quickly. Even solo carebear stuff is sort of PvP - you're avoiding getting ganked, interacting with the market, chat some with people in your corp, chatting in help window, etc. Not true PvP, but still, Eve is a dynamic place because of all these pilots, even as a solo player.

So my suggestion is get an alt. One toon is full-on exploration/covert ops (who also uses found blueprints to build stuff). My buzzard is perfect for this. The other toon is training combat, which is a never ending process as a newbie.

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I'm fairly new to this game...

... but here's my impression of why the definition of PvP is even a discussion, anyway:

• Players who engaged in a lot of ship combat (as it's known in most other games: PvP) started getting elitist.
• Other players called them out on it.
• In a (ongoing) attempt to save face, the response was "What!? Everyone PvPs! Thus no one can be elitist since we all do it!"

Hi there,

I can't help with an answer on POS mechanics, as I don't fully understand that either.

I am having a lot of fun in my current corp, which focusses on exploration. Yes, I know you specifically said you didn't want to join a corp, but hear me out

Signal Cartel is full of player interaction without the pew-pew. The credo specifically prohibits that, although NPCs are fair game. In addition, there are a few in the corp who are there specifically to provide services to support other explorers e.g. scouting, hauling, loot buy-back programs and so on. There are a number of group activities taking place all the time that might be your thing. We have even been known to go out and hug our war-deccers with fireworks as a way of spreading the love and practicing fleet stuff!

If this sounds like it might be of interest to you, check out the link in my sig below. If not - happy hunting and do what you feel in EVE - there is no right answer!

I suspect the OP got half-way through the responses to his question and figured he could make better use of his time...

Welcome to EVE, Yowser.

TL;DR - the EVE sandbox allows everyone to play the way they want. There are many implications in that statement.

Don't get me wrong, there are many generous players who contribute an enormous amount of their knowledge and time to the forums here and New Citizens Q&A is a great place to ask questions - I've personally had a lot of benefit from their contributions here. You should check out some of the replies people give in General Discussion for comparison!

In my time reading the forums I'd say there are two 'hot topics' that crop up time and again, with passionately made arguments from all sides. IMHO, both of those those topics are essentially the same thing and are a result of the fact that EVE is unlike any other game.

1: I like to do (insert your chosen activity here) and some evil swine has just stopped me doing it/blown me up/stolen my stuff - I'm upset and they should be banned/the game should be changed!

2: I don't want to do PVP or join a corp. Other people and/or the game mechanics appear to make this impossible for me - what should I do?

Bear in mind that there are very few rules to be broken in EVE, so posts of these types seem to almost always get off topic pretty quickly.

I've come to the realisation that, at it's essence, all play in EVE is PVP, or more broadly, player interaction. I prefer to say that, if anything is obligatory in EVE, it's player interaction. I don't think it's possible to play the game without this on some level.

Regardless, accepting the fact that other players will play the game their way means you must understand and accept the hazards involved in playing the game your way and adjust accordingly. This will save a lot of frustration and wasted bandwidth in the forums Granted, it's not always possible to understand all possible hazards until they actually materialise, but again, we all have the choice to take something positive from that, or rant/ragequit. It does not help that a small minority of players appear to enjoy when the latter happens, but again, dealing with asshattery is just another of the challenges in EVE

Ship-to-ship combat, wardeccing, griefing of all flavours, scamming, awoxing, and probably a thousand other ways of separating you from your (EVE-based) assets is the beauty of the sandbox. Player interaction is what allows us all not just to survive that stuff, but to actually thrive in the game.

Make friends, learn from them and find your own path in EVE.

Fly safe!

I agree that EVE is a pretty weird place to be if you want to play by yourself, but would suggest that your your use of p0rn could be more creative - it doesn't need to be a solo activity

Lol... this made my morning... thank you sir! or Ma'am... either way, lolz, I almost cried, seriously.

To the Op, I guess given the circumstances in my life, I don't mind sharing some experiences of mine. I don't claim them to be of any significance or substance but I maybe you will gain someone else's perspective about solo eve. Im still learning too of course. I am by no means any sort of anything so take everything with a grain of salt. please.

I love eve, I started in 2009 and have the same individualistic approach to my pve time in eve. I dont know why, i guess I feel like i get hte most satisfaction from eve in such a manner. Of course the little pvp that I have done has been epic and I love it. but we are talking about pos's and mining, and exploring, learning how to pilot your ships, learning the mechanics of eve, mastering if you will everything that you come across. So might as well be secure doing so your first time around. as secure as you can be, of course.

I use a pos... a small and a large. I usually have only one operating at a time. :)

the small is for a temporary stay in a system that has the resources I need to make stuff. lets call this deployment to that system what ever we wish, and change it up every new system or region you move on to to explore. I like operation names, for example a famous known name is "project blue book" but you will have to ask our government about that one.

picking a pos isnt that difficult, its likely to get destroyed one day, so invest cheap i say, I went with a minmatar small pos. I didnt even care waht had more powergrid or cpu... i wasnt using enough to max it out. I like to jump a capital in system, and put up a pos. once its up and fuel is in, ill bring the rest of my fleet (alts) in with only what is needed to do the job. I bring nothing crazy, just hte bare minimum. I can pack up and leave really quick, even if there is a swarm of hostiles on the outside of the pos, as long as I check in everyday when I am out on deployment. daa... right?

get the resources in system while in system

get the frack out of town after and collect the invested materials

go back out for more... basically a pos is very useful if you need a place to store a few ships, and have the protection, (even though so temperary) of the pos shield, etc...

I am just packing up from a deployment myself, and I am wondering if I could share what it is Im doing, without further jeopardizing myself by encouraging pirates to come track me down and hunt me out. Basically though, I think they would get bored eventually as I do not play that often, or consistantly, and Im always safe.... with 0 local... when out in deployment. Ill never drop into a system with recent activity and jumps. period. and I dont stay out for more than a day or so at a time. I find it most necessary to keep my assets mobile and/or in a station.

I have a captains log that I keep as well, with practiced procedures for emergency action. Think thinkgs through, what could happen.... and how can i prevent or discourage consequences... come up with contingencies and procedures, practice them with your alts while multi boxing. I run a six account setup. it is a lot to manage, and afford. but its worth it to me, its eve, its space, and its my obsession, I care not the thoughts of others and mostly interact with myself in eve. I have a few more gaols though in eve that involve pvp and I have my eyes set on a corp that I would love to join and grow with.

I really miss wormholes... I cant say this enough. when I was in Bite Me Inc, we had everything at our fingertips. The most exhilarating experience in eve for me... I remember taking my first corp into wh space with an alt, and it changed everything and it was great! All I can say is you gotta do what you love. I love to mine, harvest, manufacture, trade, and learn to fc... fight... basically as I progress, I make more isk/hr, and I can relax and play more and more pvp.

I just feel like I should earn it...

To the OP; im sure some might have said this already, but i got tired of reading this thread because of others hijacking it, i would recommend putting up the a post in the corp recruitment thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=265

Just specify exactly what you are looking for in a corp, the amount of corps out there i am pretty sure you will find a group that would suit you really well. A lot of people will say eve is a pvp game, and they are right but equally its a social game.

If you dont want to engage in the pvp side of things then thats your choice (you should at least once, its great fun) but do engage in the social aspects of the game. Believe it or not, the eve community is one of the best out there.