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WH Prospect Gas Harvesting - Seriously
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Ginger Yume
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-05-22 18:00:23 UTC
The major bonus is the double-sized ore hold. If you are ninja mining, that means after you scan down the 3-4 gas sites in a hole, you can take a chunk of all of them before having to go home.
Delegate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-05-22 20:53:32 UTC
Most solo miners go with venture. AB/nano venture is arguably most difficult to gank unless you have dictor. Prospect will bring more attention and it will die to a properly fit bomber.
Newt BlackCompany
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2015-05-23 08:36:46 UTC
You are doing it wrong.

1. Ninja the gas sites for 15-20 minutes with your prospect. With an instrumental site that will give you about 30M worth of gas.

2. When the sleepers arrive, leave and reship into a T3 or a ishtar (or whatever really...)

3. When the sleepers are dead, loot/salvage them (another 25M or so)

4. Reship and return with your prospect and suck gas. An instrumental site is worth about 400M total, and takes a few hours to clear with one prospect.

Just remember to dscan a lot. Wholers love to catch a sleepy prospect pilot. But, if you are paying attention, you will be VERY hard to catch.

Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-05-23 11:09:13 UTC
Last time I tried gas harvesting, I got bubbled and podded by a sabre.
permion
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-05-23 11:23:31 UTC
Last time I was in a shattered WH I stayed for a couple of days in my astero, since it gave bonuses that benefited my armor and it was fun soloing for a while.

Seriously the place had 33+ signatures in it on some days. 3 were sites I cared about, around 5 or 6 WH's, and the rest all gas.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2015-05-23 14:14:54 UTC
The Prospects weapon is its covert cloak
Tomb Ovaert
9B30FF Labs
#27 - 2015-06-11 10:49:05 UTC
Brian Harrelstein wrote:
Last time I tried gas harvesting, I got bubbled and podded by a sabre.


Cloak + MWD trick bru. Big smile
Verlyn
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#28 - 2015-06-11 11:17:35 UTC
Gassers.

Lol.
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#29 - 2015-06-15 06:39:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Yodik
Violet Crumble wrote:
Huff as much as I can before the rats spawn.

Black Pedro wrote:
you are limited to 15-20 minutes of gas harvesting before the rats arrive

Miles Parabellum wrote:
I have no idea why anybody would use a prospect.

Mithandra wrote:
you've got maybe 20 minutes before the rats spawn

Newt BlackCompany wrote:

1. Ninja the gas sites for 15-20 minutes with your prospect. With an instrumental site that will give you about 30M worth of gas.
2. When the sleepers arrive, leave and reship into a T3 or a ishtar (or whatever really...)

what you know about prospect...

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#30 - 2015-06-15 11:03:58 UTC
Yodik wrote:
Violet Crumble wrote:
Huff as much as I can before the rats spawn.

Black Pedro wrote:
you are limited to 15-20 minutes of gas harvesting before the rats arrive

Mithandra wrote:
you've got maybe 20 minutes before the rats spawn

Newt BlackCompany wrote:

1. Ninja the gas sites for 15-20 minutes with your prospect. With an instrumental site that will give you about 30M worth of gas.
2. When the sleepers arrive, leave and reship into a T3 or a ishtar (or whatever really...)

what you know about prospect...


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BR0u5rzCUAMNfCK.jpg:large

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#31 - 2015-06-15 11:41:21 UTC
I'm running a mining link gnosis with 2 prospects for 25k m³ total and linked cycles, the Gnosis just drops a few k m³ each run for the prospects :D

The 10k m³ gas hold is totally worth the premium. And the 1mil for a venture or 15 for a prospect, that's not a price difference you can use as a good basis, given the cheapest possible fit is already 8mil for the venture and ~11mil for the prospect.

So realistically: A 10mil venture with a 5k hold or a 25mil prospect with a 10k hold that doesn't care for sabres and scouts for your gnosis. Hardly a hard choice.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-06-15 12:17:38 UTC
And...OP...you didn't know all this before you began training?

There just isn't anything that can be said!
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#33 - 2015-06-15 13:15:40 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
Lloyd Roses wrote:
I'm running a mining link gnosis with 2 prospects for 25k m³ total and linked cycles, the Gnosis just drops a few k m³ each run for the prospects :D

The 10k m³ gas hold is totally worth the premium. And the 1mil for a venture or 15 for a prospect, that's not a price difference you can use as a good basis, given the cheapest possible fit is already 8mil for the venture and ~11mil for the prospect.

So realistically: A 10mil venture with a 5k hold or a 25mil prospect with a 10k hold that doesn't care for sabres and scouts for your gnosis. Hardly a hard choice.


For a starting pilot, the Venture is more cost-efficient, but yes - one should eventually be upgrading to the Prospect.

It would appear, Mr Dracon wasn't quite ready for such an upgrade. Blink

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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#34 - 2015-06-15 14:30:21 UTC
It's sad that thing doesn't have an exhumer like additional gas mining bonus.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#35 - 2015-06-15 14:44:39 UTC
Tomb Ovaert wrote:
Brian Harrelstein wrote:
Last time I tried gas harvesting, I got bubbled and podded by a sabre.


Cloak + MWD trick bru. Big smile


Gas Miner II range is 1500m. Decloak range is 2000m. Good luck cloaking while within decloak range of the gas cloud.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Mysa
EVIL PLANKTON
#36 - 2015-06-15 14:57:22 UTC
Van Dracon wrote:
Is this some sort of a joke.

1 - "leveling"



What?

SoloFoLife! -KEKE the Merlin wonder
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#37 - 2015-06-15 14:59:56 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Tomb Ovaert wrote:
Brian Harrelstein wrote:
Last time I tried gas harvesting, I got bubbled and podded by a sabre.


Cloak + MWD trick bru. Big smile


Gas Miner II range is 1500m. Decloak range is 2000m. Good luck cloaking while within decloak range of the gas cloud.


While traveling, of course.

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Hipqo
Tyde8
#38 - 2015-06-15 15:05:16 UTC
If you fit the prospect with ECCM, you can make it almost impossible to scan down, (requires full scanning skills and implants to get 100%) you can warp cloaked anywhere, you harvest gas slightly faster and you have twice the ore hold of the venture.

Whats not to like lol?

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#39 - 2015-06-16 10:52:49 UTC
Vulpecula Borealis
Doomheim
#40 - 2015-06-16 11:20:40 UTC
Van Dracon wrote:
Is this some sort of a joke.


2 - Prospect frigate doesn't have any drone bays but the venture does go figure


Yes. This is pretty bad. It should have a flight of small drones. Even for ninjamining in lowsec or nullsec, it's not good. Your only defence is the cloak.
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