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Brain study. why people like to pve vs pvp? Science

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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-05-23 01:28:06 UTC
Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.

So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.

So..


What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

Any other psychological reasons you can think of?

Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#2 - 2015-05-23 01:31:33 UTC
Aww, thought you were going to post a link from a reputable journal.

This won't be at all scientific.
beakerax
Pator Tech School
#3 - 2015-05-23 01:33:55 UTC
According to Freud, it's caused by mothers withholding red crosses early in life.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-05-23 01:35:52 UTC
Forgot one that very well may likely be the main reason.

To make isk/currency/points/xp etc
(Level up)
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2015-05-23 01:40:18 UTC
Something, something, some people like to build sand castles, some like to kick them down, something, something.

In seriousness though, I think this is way too broad to easily explain.

I could explain it for me, but it wouldn't be relevant as a general concept, only as my specific reason.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2015-05-23 01:49:57 UTC
beakerax wrote:
According to Freud, it's caused by mothers withholding red crosses early in life.


He was a very angry man towards women.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#7 - 2015-05-23 01:50:45 UTC
I'd say it's this one:
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

There is a chess game and mathematical analysis involved in PVE. Especially solo. Don't let PVP bigger-upper 'leet noobs tell you any different.
Yuri Ostrovskoy
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-05-23 02:09:18 UTC
It actually boils down to relaxing after work for me. The content, and the fitting of ships, squeezing out optimal performance, all that jazz.

I save my pvp for my days off, when I can lean forward to my screen, and really get into it.

Pve is just relaxing. It has a sink into chair sigh feeling. It lets you calmly unwind after a twelve hour day of dealing customers that make you want to give up life while you can.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#9 - 2015-05-23 02:17:50 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Forgot one that very well may likely be the main reason.

To make isk/currency/points/xp etc
(Level up)


That could be the most important reason, certainly for me. Standings, ISK, RP, LP.
Though, in a way, I also count exploration as PvE, even out of high.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-05-23 02:21:42 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I'd say it's this one:
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

There is a chess game and mathematical analysis involved in PVE. Especially solo. Don't let PVP bigger-upper 'leet noobs tell you any different.

Doesnt. Www.eve-survival.com or whatever tell you eexactly what to do when tho?
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#11 - 2015-05-23 03:03:39 UTC
What makes you attention seek on the forums so much?
Everyone has there reasons for self gratification.
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
#12 - 2015-05-23 03:35:42 UTC
Posting in a stealth "PvP players are superior to PvE players" thread.

Bottom line : if it is within the rules and you enjoy it, go do it.

To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.

...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
Paranoid Loyd
#13 - 2015-05-23 04:08:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Black Panpher wrote:
What makes you attention seek on the forums so much?
Everyone has there reasons for self gratification.

It seems like he is actually trying to make a decent thread, lay off. OTOH, he may have run out of his drug of choice. Blink



CAM, I agree with Khergit Deserters and yes using eve-survival to a certain degree does make it easy, but there are many other pieces to the puzzle, especially if you are trying to blitz the fastest or clear entire rooms the fastest. There is also a lot more PVE than mission running.

The other reason to do it, besides the puzzle aspect and the obvious reason to make isk, if you are going to be doing PVP in any of these areas, it is best to have a full understanding of what is going on, so that you are not spending time worrying about that when you are trying to trap someone while they are doing the PVE and you are hunting them.

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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-05-23 04:36:04 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.

So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.

So..


What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

Any other psychological reasons you can think of?

Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.

CCP should add a poll function to the forums for post like these.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#15 - 2015-05-23 07:11:07 UTC
"Harvest Moon" aspect.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
PinkMonkey Dragon
Bittervets United
#16 - 2015-05-23 07:21:25 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.

So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.

So..


What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

Any other psychological reasons you can think of?

Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.


As some one who almost exclusivly pve's...
1. no.
2. no.
3. no.
4. no.
5. no.

other reason? it's easy, takes no time to set up, i can start it any time i like, and end it any time i like, with little risk of loss/wasted time fitting something new. I dont have to rely on others to do it. it's something casual, that i can do on my own terms at my own time with little to no real preparation.

and it makes isk.

done.

stop trying to over think things.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2015-05-23 07:52:49 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
beakerax wrote:
According to Freud, it's caused by mothers withholding red crosses early in life.


He was a very angry man towards women.

His grandson, Lucian Freud was (he died recently) a stunningly good painter, honestly worth looking up.

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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-05-23 08:13:09 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
Buoytender Bob wrote:
Posting in a stealth "PvP players are superior to PvE players" thread.


Except its not stealth at all.
Real science would ask "...and why whould another group prever pvp?" since this question is not asked, the meaning is obvious.

It just shows how unflexible, onesided and selfloving some(! not all) pvplers think.

This "superior" thingy seems to be a common wet dream for some pvp-ppl.

As some PvPlers do PvE to help out for isk and standing, PvElers do some PVP when they like to. So in basic, its the same ppl. (aka the same brain) I think would this tiny train of thought would make those pathetic guys understand. However it did not happen, and it appears, that will not happen.

Another sienctific question: do some pathetic pvplers have lower brain functions, social competences, so they can not understand other ppl then themself? Do they not wonder, why they are so easily detected?

OP, what do you think?
Pirate

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#19 - 2015-05-23 08:22:41 UTC
Wait ... PvPers are unflexible ?

Okay you mean combat pilots, right ?


And how does that compare to miners and mission runners ?
The most flexible people in space, right ?

That's hilarious trolling right there.
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Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-05-23 08:34:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiandoshia
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I'd say it's this one:
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

There is a chess game and mathematical analysis involved in PVE. Especially solo. Don't let PVP bigger-upper 'leet noobs tell you any different.

Doesnt. Www.eve-survival.com or whatever tell you eexactly what to do when tho?


That site is down ^^

If the question you are asking is "Why doesn't everyone go out and find the peeveepee?", I can answer, at least for myself, I find the majority of it boring. Sure, the 3 minutes of shooting each other is fun but the 2, 3, 4 and 5 hours before that tend to be pretty ******* boring. There are better games out there if you want to shoot at each other and there is more to Eve than shooting each other (or waiting for an opportunity to do so) thankfully.

Also, I probably should post this with a different character because now everyone is going to go raa raa scrub, 0.0, carebear F1 monkey shithead raa raa but the way you worded this topic, it seems like you might be reasonable with someone's honest response ^^
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