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Machariel PVE Fit and skills
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Kara Searae
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-05-22 07:33:11 UTC
Hey there I'm looking to run through level 4 missions.
However I'm a new player and I don't know which fit to go for and what skills are really nice to have when doing level 4 missions.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Will be much appreciated.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#2 - 2015-05-22 07:54:17 UTC
Machariel is one of the best ships to blitz L4 missions. But it is also very skill (both in-game and personal combat) demanding. Any fit you will find here (number of them were already posted - just use search button) will point you toward large auto cannons, active shield and a fair amount of heavy drones skills. You will also need good core support skills to be able to fit every thing.

Download EFT and try to fit this, fo example:
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Gist A-Type 100MN Afterburner
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster

800mm Repeating Cannon II,Barrage L
800mm Repeating Cannon II,Barrage L
800mm Repeating Cannon II,Barrage L
800mm Repeating Cannon II,Barrage L
800mm Repeating Cannon II,Barrage L
800mm Repeating Cannon II,Barrage L
800mm Repeating Cannon II,Barrage L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II

Whole bunch of T2 drones.

Saying all this I try to lure you into flying more newbee friendly L4 mission power horse: Dominix with sentry drones . Much more easier to survive (drone range bonus is your tank) and gives you a lot of time to learn all about triggers and damage dealers in different missions. After you learn missions so well, that you do not need to check eve-survival.org that often - you can go try a brawling ship instead of sniper one. And machariel will require you to skill gallente battleship any way...

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2015-05-22 13:27:08 UTC
[Machariel, end game pve]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Core C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Phased Plasma L
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II


High-grade Ascendancy Alpha
High-grade Ascendancy Beta
High-grade Ascendancy Gamma
High-grade Ascendancy Delta
High-grade Ascendancy Epsilon
High-grade Ascendancy Omega
Zainou 'Deadeye' Trajectory Analysis TA-706
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-906
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Large Projectile Turret LP-1006


Highly effective at blitzing but very skill intensive and the implants arn't cheap. I always advise running level 3 missions until you get the skills and experince. The above fit will easily hit 70 mil/hr before adding the implants running level 3 missions and the ship fittings are not all that expensive.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#4 - 2015-05-22 14:44:51 UTC
Mach really isnt very skill intensive at all TBH. I started using mine at around 700 DPS with meta 4 guns. Then as you get more skills it blossoms. As you get more money for better mods it blossoms also.

Ships like RS, Fleet Typhoon, and Armageddon are skill intensive as they take 2 or more weapons systems to master.

Ironically Domi is another choice that you can start out with low SP and then skill into an absolute beast.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2015-05-22 16:43:53 UTC
[Machariel, starter pve]

Gyrostabilizer I
Gyrostabilizer I
Gyrostabilizer I
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener
True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener

Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

Should be a fairly easy to train into setup for blitzing level 3s for some easy cash while you train. Upgrade as and when you get the skills. Fitting skills will be important so once you can fly this get those trained up quickly.
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-05-22 18:10:37 UTC
You shoudl at least expect t2 gyros.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-05-22 20:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
You shoudl at least expect t2 gyros.


Hmm why not Faction ones?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2015-05-22 20:34:26 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
You shoudl at least expect t2 gyros.


Hmm why not Faction ones?


As I said, upgrade as needed. Its not like level 3 missions are known for their tankinessBlink
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-05-22 22:36:30 UTC
The only problem I have with my mach is running out of cap boosters to run the shield booster on tougher missions like WC and The Blockade. I could squeeze a bit more in using faction boosters but that on top of faction ammo really chews into profits. It is a very fun ship to fly and I'm already doing over 800 DPS excluding drones, despite having incomplete skills for projectile turrets and Minnie BS at 3
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2015-05-22 22:41:05 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
The only problem I have with my mach is running out of cap boosters to run the shield booster on tougher missions like WC and The Blockade. I could squeeze a bit more in using faction boosters but that on top of faction ammo really chews into profits. It is a very fun ship to fly and I'm already doing over 800 DPS excluding drones, despite having incomplete skills for projectile turrets and Minnie BS at 3


The blockade can be done in stages, dont shoot the trigger for the next wave until last.

I tend to skip worlds collide as I can do several missions in the time it takes to do that one.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-05-22 23:21:45 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
The only problem I have with my mach is running out of cap boosters to run the shield booster on tougher missions like WC and The Blockade. I could squeeze a bit more in using faction boosters but that on top of faction ammo really chews into profits. It is a very fun ship to fly and I'm already doing over 800 DPS excluding drones, despite having incomplete skills for projectile turrets and Minnie BS at 3


The blockade can be done in stages, dont shoot the trigger for the next wave until last.

I tend to skip worlds collide as I can do several missions in the time it takes to do that one.


The problem with the blockade is the damping, if I'm thinking of the right one. Maybe the assault too, if you run it against serpentis rats. Having to close inside 25k to kill the damping HACs is a hassle. But I usually omni tank, fitting a thermic and kinetic invuln instead of 2x adaptives will help I think.

If standings weren't an issue I'd just skip everything except dread pirate scarlet and the damsel.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2015-05-22 23:24:02 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
The only problem I have with my mach is running out of cap boosters to run the shield booster on tougher missions like WC and The Blockade. I could squeeze a bit more in using faction boosters but that on top of faction ammo really chews into profits. It is a very fun ship to fly and I'm already doing over 800 DPS excluding drones, despite having incomplete skills for projectile turrets and Minnie BS at 3


The blockade can be done in stages, dont shoot the trigger for the next wave until last.

I tend to skip worlds collide as I can do several missions in the time it takes to do that one.


The problem with the blockade is the damping, if I'm thinking of the right one. Maybe the assault too, if you run it against serpentis rats. Having to close inside 25k to kill the damping HACs is a hassle. But I usually omni tank, fitting a thermic and kinetic invuln instead of 2x adaptives will help I think.

If standings weren't an issue I'd just skip everything except dread pirate scarlet and the damsel.


Might be worth swapping to a vargur for such missions.
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-05-23 05:10:12 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
[Machariel, starter pve]

Gyrostabilizer I
Gyrostabilizer I
Gyrostabilizer I
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener
True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener

Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

Should be a fairly easy to train into setup for blitzing level 3s for some easy cash while you train. Upgrade as and when you get the skills. Fitting skills will be important so once you can fly this get those trained up quickly.


If you cannot fit T2 for the core modules and weapons, do not fly the ship. This is especially true of very expensive, pirate-faction ships.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2015-05-23 05:12:44 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:


If you cannot fit T2 for the core modules and weapons, do not fly the ship. This is especially true of very expensive, pirate-faction ships.


Even with the T1 gear and basic skills that ship is overkill in level 3 missions.
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-05-23 05:30:19 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:


If you cannot fit T2 for the core modules and weapons, do not fly the ship. This is especially true of very expensive, pirate-faction ships.


Even with the T1 gear and basic skills that ship is overkill in level 3 missions.


In level 3's, it's beyond overkill. The Machariel is overkill for 90% of L4's.
Kara Searae
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-05-23 11:32:21 UTC
I see there is a lot of shared opinions.
I have been watching around on the internet and I came across this video with this fit, tell me what you think about it :)

High Power:
7x 800mm Repeating Cannon II
1x Small Tractor Beam II

Medium Power:
2x Large Shield Extender II
1x 100MN Microwarpdrive II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Low Power:
3x Gyrostabilizer II
1x Damage Control II
3x Tracking Enhancer II

Rig:
3x Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Drones:
2x Warrior
2x Hobgoblin
5x Valkyrie
3x Valkyrie SW-600

Is this good for level 4 missions?
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#17 - 2015-05-23 15:06:37 UTC
I recomment to try this out:

Hi slots:
7x Polarized 800mm Repeating autocanonn

Med slots:
Gist A-Type 100mn MWD
2x Pith X-Type shield boost ampilifier
PIth X-type x large shield booster
Cap recharger

Low slots:
4x Rep fleet gyros
3x TE 2

Rigs:
Projectile burst aerator
shield cap reduction rig


Imps:

Genulation set
Mid grade crystal epsilon
Warp speed WS-15
Projectile turret damage imps

That ship does around 1750 dps with hail, has still 500 tank and can easly make 100m/h in Lanngisi

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-05-23 15:20:15 UTC
Gustav Mannfred wrote:
I recomment to try this out:

Hi slots:
7x Polarized 800mm Repeating autocanonn

Med slots:
Gist A-Type 100mn MWD


Its a trick, don't fall for it!
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-05-23 15:52:56 UTC
Afaik thats the best isk/h fit for the mach.
stoicfaux
#20 - 2015-05-23 17:00:49 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Afaik thats the best isk/h fit for the mach.

For whom? The mission runner or the ganker?

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