EVE General Discussion

Yes, the Prospect doesn't have a drone bay, however I'm not sure a flight of light drones is going to be all that effective against the group of sleepers that warp in.

I also mine gas in wormholes, typically shattered holes which can spawn all types of gas and up to C5/6 rats.

What I do to overcome the limited defence is scan down 4-5 gas sites and then warp to the one that will have the C320 and C540 gas. Huff as much as I can before the rats spawn. That usually gets me about 2500 cu.m of either gas. Then I warp to the next site and huff the most valuable of the available gas. Rinse and repeat when the rats spawn.

Avoiding the rats and harvesting from multiple sites nets me around 70 million ISK worth of gas per ore hold load, assuming I including C320 or C540.

The other option I use is to clear out the easier sites in the shattered hole when the rats spawn and then clear the field. The rats in the Vital Perimeter sites though will alpha a Confessor from 100km, so I just move on when they spawn.

I generally like the shattered holes that only allow frigates and destroyers inside because defence can be planned very effectively and no one can live in the shattered holes so they are often empty.

The larger ore hold and covops cloak of the Prospect wins out for me over the WCS of the Venture and its drones. It allows me to mine more and move effectively through other holes to an exit when needed.

I must admit, given the large difference in price and the small difference in performance, I have no idea why anybody would use a prospect.
If one of you guys can enlighten me, that would be nice.
Of course, I also tend to AFK gasmine with no implants (only once come back to the game, sitting in a station).

Each to their own I guess.

I prefer the Prospect for ninja mining in both J-Space and sov null (I also use mining barges to ninja mine in sov null and prefer them where possible).

In j-space the covops cloak allows me to move through chains more effectively than I could in a Venture and the double sized ore hold means fewer trips back to drop gas off.

In sov null, the cloak makes it much quicker to stop and restart mining if a neutral enters system. I can cloak in position and wait, then decloak and mine again. Having to warp to a safe in a mining barge becomes tiring.

I haven't lost a Prospect yet, so cost is irrelevant at this point. I build them, but 18 million ISK is not something I worry about.

+25% mining yield from the expedition frigate bonuses (the other mining bonuses also being mirrored on the Venture)

Prospect Ship Bonuses:

Mining Frigate bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to Mining yield
5% reduction in Gas Cloud Harvesting duration

Expedition Frigates bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to Mining yield
5% reduction in ship signature radius

Role Bonus:
100% bonus to Mining and Gas Cloud Harvesting yield
100% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
• Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device and Covert Cynosural Field Generator
• Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds

Prospect has a Covert Cloak.... i dont think you fully understand how useful this is....

2 light drones wont do anything in a WH against either a player or the rats your better to run.... i would prefer using the prospect larger bay bigger bonus's and as i said a cov ops cloak...

You see someone on Dscan... you cloak... now they cant find you....can be useful when you need to run away with a hold full of gas

Yeah, you get the sig radius bonus too, so torps aren't all that effective against it with good skills.

It is called "ninja" gas mining for a reason. You don't fight the sleepers.

2 light drones from a venture won't even scratch a sleeper. So they are absolutely irrelevant. The propect brings

- twice the ore hold
- 25% more gas mining yield
- a covert ops cloak, which is insanely useful in wspace
- significatly more tank then a venture
- an even lower signature radius


It has 4 low slots, so if you fit 2 warp core stabs you still have 2 low slots free. This means that using a prospect gives you more fitting options then using a venture.

I go with a haccking/scanning char which scans down the sites and hacks them, while my prospect does the gas sites. Granted, you need a depot to bring a cloak and a probe launcher, but you have the same limitation on the venture.

If the price concerns you, you are doing something wrong. You can not loose a prospect unless you are making mistakes or think that you can AFK mine in a wh. I have not lost a single propect yet, and I'm flying one since few days they came out. I still have that first one. And even a propect pays off with just one gas site.

Hey Dude, wanna have another lossmail with my name on it ? :)

So gas mining on your own in a prospect in a WH isn't working out.

Solutions:
- Find a ship that does allow you to do this on your own (according to your post there are cruiser hulls that fit the bill)
- Find another person to tag along and take care of the rats

My reply assumes that you want to harvest gas in a WH. If your post is purely about the Prospect not doing what you want, you can ignore this reply. Supers haven't done what I want for yeas now. My Drake and Hurricane are also dead in the water.

Don't play solo.