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Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#21 - 2015-05-21 15:47:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Revis Owen
Bia Bri wrote:
I'll be around after your organization moves on to something else.


Prediction that the New Order will end #6843658. You're definitely confirming yourself to be a true carebear, with all the swallowing of anti-Code propaganda entailed.

At least try to be lucid enough to understand that 10M ISK buys you some of the best anti-gank tank around for the money.

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Bia Bri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-05-21 15:48:18 UTC
Omar, that wasn't directed at you. At all.

Code likes to RP it up. It's their game. If they enjoy it, I'm all for however they want to play. That's my point. But Revis quite literally put words in my mouth that miss the mark by a wide margin. If C&P forums aren't the place to call someone out on that, then well, I guess we'll have to disagree.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#23 - 2015-05-21 15:50:34 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Bia Bri wrote:
I'll be around after your organization moves on to something else.


Prediction that the New Order will end #6843658. You're definitely confirming yourself to be a true carebear, with all the swallowing of anti-Code propaganda entailed.

At least try to be lucid enough to understand that 10M ISK buys you some of the best anti-gank tank around for the money.


code are carebears they interact with npc's more than anyone else in the game

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Bia Bri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-05-21 15:51:08 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Bia Bri wrote:
RevisI'll be around after your organization moves on to something else.s.


Prediction that the New Order will end #6843658. You're definitely confirming yourself to be a true carebear, with all the swallowing of anti-Code propaganda entailed.

At least try to be lucid enough to understand that 10M ISK buys you some of the best anti-gank tank around for the money.


No, not end. You have proven to be an established brand. Name recognition counts for a fair bit in EvE and I don't doubt your name will be around for years to come.

But i said you guys will move on. If for no other reason than the people you have now will be 10 years older IRL. With new jobs, and their kids graduations, and blah blah. Trying to be the same entity for the next decade is likely to prove impossible, even if CCP weren't mucking around with the core of the game as much as they are now.

If i'm wrong, that's a sad day for everyone involved.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#25 - 2015-05-21 15:52:36 UTC
Bia, actually the lag in me typing out my drunken, yet superbly witty response caused other folks to get their posts intermingled before my super witty and oh so very intellig... **** it I can't spell response landed on grid.

I get code. My warning shot was actually fired over Revis' bow, as there are scores of CODE. threads already in existence, and attemtping to hijack another in the name of propaganda is simply bad form.

You are in the right place, you have used your main, you have been civil.
The forms of Kanly have been observed, and you have been, at least in my opinion, judged worthy for the now.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#26 - 2015-05-21 15:59:25 UTC
Bia Bri wrote:
you guys will move on. If for no other reason than the people you have now will be 10 years older IRL.


Because CODE. isn't constantly bringing in new players.

My goodness, you are continually spouting a stream of carebear delusions.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#27 - 2015-05-21 16:13:33 UTC
+1 op. I applaud you using your main. Posing a well thought out question as a question. And hell even dealing politely with the attention seeking codie that would normally have my support except he is being a pest here. I also recommend the skiff if you are not 100% focused for any reason. The skiff should save you from halfhearted gank attempts and being aligned and paying attention should save you from bumps and a reasonable gank attempt.

PS this was the place to post this

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Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#28 - 2015-05-21 16:52:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Revis Owen
Code permit tank is best tank in highsec. The New Order is not "moving on". CODE. membership isn't static, newbros coming in all the time.

In response to OP and his erroneous comments, if those civil corrections are "being a pest" I plead GUILTY AS CHARGED!

Praise James 315!

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-05-21 17:21:35 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Bia, actually the lag in me typing out my drunken, yet superbly witty response caused other folks to get their posts intermingled before my super witty and oh so very intellig... **** it I can't spell response landed on grid.

I get code. My warning shot was actually fired over Revis' bow, as there are scores of CODE. threads already in existence, and attemtping to hijack another in the name of propaganda is simply bad form.

You are in the right place, you have used your main, you have been civil.
The forms of Kanly have been observed, and you have been, at least in my opinion, judged worthy for the now.


This.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-05-21 18:29:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
OP: As others have pointed out, if someone really wants to gank you, they can and they will, its just a function of whether or not it's Dessy's or Talos's that get used upon the unwary...

While there is nothing you can do to 100% prevent being ganked, fitting a tank is a good step 1 out of 10 towards making a gank less likely.

F

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Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#31 - 2015-05-21 19:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Revis Owen
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
fitting a tank is a good step 1 out of 10


Best advice in this thread so far, along with mine. And among tank options, fitting a Code permit tank in your bio is a good step 1 out of 10. Plus it's inexpensive and takes up no slots!

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Kavoro Pel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-05-21 19:36:48 UTC
Tank, and permit tank. Look at it like this; 260m Hulk/10m mining permit (For a year..).
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#33 - 2015-05-21 20:16:07 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
fitting a tank is a good step 1 out of 10


Best advice in this thread so far, along with mine. And among tank options, fitting a Code permit tank in your bio is a good step 1 out of 10. Plus it's inexpensive and takes up no slots!


i kinda understand your group's RP but got to be honest you are the 1st annoying codie ever.

calmdown carebear!

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-05-21 20:27:03 UTC
Hi OP!

You seem a fun person with a funny name.

I'd just like to point out that if your rock-crunchers are moving at 8 m/s it would be very easy for a cloaked scout to bump them.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2015-05-21 20:41:31 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Code permit tank is best tank in highsec. The New Order is not "moving on". CODE. membership isn't static, newbros coming in all the time.

In response to OP and his erroneous comments, if those civil corrections are "being a pest" I plead GUILTY AS CHARGED!

Praise James 315!
Seriously, save it for those that deserve it. OP has come up with a valid strategy and is asking for opinions, not RP propaganda. You should be encouraging them, not spamming the place.

OT

The basic premise is fine, as long as you're at the keyboard; if they're using Catalysts you have a few seconds max if they land within blaster or scram range. DScanning regularly with the range set to a few AU will give you some warning of incoming; especially useful if you're mining in gated mission space and have the range set to just pick up the acceleration gate.

Mine a fair distance off of the warp-in to the belt, I generally have 2 or 3 spots bookmarked that allow me access to the majority of the belt without moving far from them; beware of people who may be providing a warp in. As others have said consider using Procurors or Skiffs, you'll get less yield but gain valuable seconds if caught unawares. Use standings to set known ganking groups to terrible, they'll show up in local.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#36 - 2015-05-21 21:10:29 UTC
One option you should consider is to see if you can mitigate damage through orbital speed.

When I'm baiting against gun boats I always drop an orbit can and orbit at a range chosen to reduce inbound damage as much as possible.

If you are worried about the hulks and not about the Orca, you could set up a high speed orbit around the orca. High orbital (the tighter the better against close range ships) can reduce damage substantially and make your tank go a lot longer.

Now, I can't even fly a retriever so take this advice with a grain of salt.

Read about gun mechanics to see how this affects damage, but you should never stand still and traveling in a straight line is no better.

If you are in a belt, orbit something.
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#37 - 2015-05-21 21:24:42 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
you are the 1st annoying codie ever.


Each one of us is annoying to the rebels in the area we patrol, and generally we annoy the anti-Code crowd. By far, I am not the first. Welcome to EvE! How many hours have you been playing so far, and are there any questions I may answer for you?

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Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#38 - 2015-05-21 21:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Revis Owen
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
OP has come up with a valid strategy and is asking for opinions, not RP propaganda.


Code permit tank is NOT propaganda and is definitely valid advice for being safer from ganks. You're not a noob, so I'm frankly surprised you confused valid advice for propaganda.

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2015-05-21 21:30:46 UTC
Pay attention to local. Try to avoid systems that see frequent ganker activity. And fit a proper tank; I'd recommend moving to skiffs.

Your creativity is commendable but if you really want to put that kind of effort into interacting with CODE just start hunting them with instalocker. The best anti ganking defense is substantial (skiff) tank + a general awareness of what's going on in your system.

You do not need to sit at your keyboard and spam D-scan. Scan every few minutes and use local, system kill trackers and any other intel sources to develop an accurate picture of your piece of sky. Taking down an orca and multiple mining vessels will require several Talos' or a mob of catalysts and at least a small gang of pilots. Local tank, best tank.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#40 - 2015-05-21 21:33:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
shut up about your stupid permits they are a scam, you guys were to scared to show up for the alliance tournament

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*